Controversial Michael Moore Flick 'Sicko' Will Compare U.S. Health Care with Cuba's - page 75

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  1. by   teeituptom
    Quote from BBQvegan
    For anyone who believes there are not many Americans traveling overseas for healthcare; I keep seeing articles to the contrary.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...src=newsletter
    I would love to go to the UK and golf at St Andrews the lendary home of golf
  2. by   lamazeteacher
    Quote from teeituptom
    Im a firm believer that all and I mean all, young adults at 18 sould be placed into government public assistance services all the way from the army to whatever starts with a Z, Zookeeping, why not. with a term of anywhere from 4 to 12 years. Then they can start with raising a family and private career afterwards.
    This is a free country!
  3. by   teeituptom
    Quote from lamazeteacher
    This is a free country!
    yes it is, and in this case you are free to like it and be part of it or you can leave. This is not a new concept.

    Remember the old works projects back in the depression
  4. by   lamazeteacher
    Quote from teeituptom
    yes it is, and in this case you are free to like it and be part of it or you can leave. This is not a new concept.

    Remember the old works projects back in the depression
    Dear teeituptom:

    If you remember the depression, you're a lot older than stated 57!
    That taudry phrase, "America, love it or leave it" from the Vietnam war objection, is a loser. If all those who disagree with the present regime left, this country would be in bad shape! Free speech is all about airing all views. Only when dissident opinions are heard and understood, is there a chance for change - and teeituptom, you need to take a good look at what's going on, and listen to views that aren't your own!!!
  5. by   teeituptom
    Quote from lamazeteacher
    Dear teeituptom:

    If you remember the depression, you're a lot older than stated 57!
    That taudry phrase, "America, love it or leave it" from the Vietnam war objection, is a loser. If all those who disagree with the present regime left, this country would be in bad shape! Free speech is all about airing all views. Only when dissident opinions are heard and understood, is there a chance for change - and teeituptom, you need to take a good look at what's going on, and listen to views that aren't your own!!!
    Actually it still should be, America, Love it or leave it. I am a dissenter. I listen to views in this country and I feel a lot of people should leave. I have that right to an Opinion I was in Nam, I earned it.
  6. by   HM2VikingRN
    I think we need to focus on the real issue. How are we going to bring everyone into a rational health care system?
  7. by   teeituptom
    Quote from HM2Viking
    I think we need to focus on the real issue. How are we going to bring everyone into a rational health care system?
    I think once they all see the immense benefits from it. There wont be any problem getting them in voluntarily

    If not we enlist them all into the Army
  8. by   Jolie
    Quote from teeituptom
    we enlist them all into the Army
    That may be the best idea you've had yet!
  9. by   lamazeteacher
    Quote from teeituptom
    Actually it still should be, America, Love it or leave it. I am a dissenter. I listen to views in this country and I feel a lot of people should leave. I have that right to an Opinion I was in Nam, I earned it.
    You don't need to earn your opinion, teeituptom. It is your right, no matter where you are, where you've been, in what capacity, or what your circumstances to: 1. think about the topic,2. investigate all sides of it, 3. think about the impact of your opinion, and who needs to hear it, 4. using your best communication skills, without putting anyone down, address your ideas appropriately.

    TOMORROW, SEPTEMBER 27, 2007 MICHAEL MOORE WILL BE ON OPRAH'S SHOW WITH HEALTHCARE INSURANCE LOBBYIST, AND CEO'S OF THOSE INSURANCE COMPANIES. IN THE LEADER, THE LOBBYIST DEFENDS THE PROFITS MADE BY THOSE COMPANIES. I'D LIKE HER WEBSITE FILLED WITH ALL YOUR OPINIONS, EVEN THOUGH THE SHOW WAS TAPED ALREADY. REMEMBER, "IF IT'S TO BE, IT'S UP TO ME!" HERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY!!!!
  10. by   lamazeteacher
    Y'ALL WATCH OR RECORD OPRAH TOMORROW - THURS., SEPT. 27, 2007 TO SEE MICHAEL MOORE ON HER SHOW, WITH A HEALTHCARE INSURANCE LOBBYIST, AND POSSIBLY CEO'S OF THOSE COMPANIES, DEFENDING THEIR OUTRAGEOUS PROFITS!!!!! THEN WE CAN EXCHANGE VIEWS ABOUT WHAT IS SAID, WITH MORE INFORMATION FROM DIFFERING VIEWPOINTS. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY, AND HOPE YOU'LL FLOOD OPRAH'S WEBSITE WITH YOUR REACTIONS!!!!!
  11. by   sanctuary
    Quote from lamazeteacher
    Y'ALL WATCH OR RECORD OPRAH TOMORROW - THURS., SEPT. 27, 2007 TO SEE MICHAEL MOORE ON HER SHOW, WITH A HEALTHCARE INSURANCE LOBBYIST, AND POSSIBLY CEO'S OF THOSE COMPANIES, DEFENDING THEIR OUTRAGEOUS PROFITS!!!!! THEN WE CAN EXCHANGE VIEWS ABOUT WHAT IS SAID, WITH MORE INFORMATION FROM DIFFERING VIEWPOINTS. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY, AND HOPE YOU'LL FLOOD OPRAH'S WEBSITE WITH YOUR REACTIONS!!!!!
    What a wonderful idea. Thanks for the heads up, and lets talk after the show.
  12. by   teeituptom
    Quote from lamazeteacher
    Y'ALL WATCH OR RECORD OPRAH TOMORROW - THURS., SEPT. 27, 2007 TO SEE MICHAEL MOORE ON HER SHOW, WITH A HEALTHCARE INSURANCE LOBBYIST, AND POSSIBLY CEO'S OF THOSE COMPANIES, DEFENDING THEIR OUTRAGEOUS PROFITS!!!!! THEN WE CAN EXCHANGE VIEWS ABOUT WHAT IS SAID, WITH MORE INFORMATION FROM DIFFERING VIEWPOINTS. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY, AND HOPE YOU'LL FLOOD OPRAH'S WEBSITE WITH YOUR REACTIONS!!!!!
    I have no use for Oprah, her and Larry King and Jerry Springer. They are only for entertainment of the worst variety in my opinion
  13. by   spydercadet
    I think we need to clarify a couple of things. First, the evil corporate insurance companies, they don't set the cost of health care. We use Medicare as the "Gold Standard" and insurance companies work off of that. Those evil insurance corporations and their evil counter part - profits, are necessary. Inside of any insurance company you will have a high percentage of people who do not need continual high cost care and a smaller percentage who will need that high cost level. Those costs get spread out so that if you work in a larger company the impact won't be that bad, but if you work somewhere with, lets say 25 employees, each employee will feel the impact directly. However, if a person can not work due to illness the government does step in and that person may be eligible for SSDI and after two years on that they'd qualify for Medicare as their insurer.

    Those profits that everyone points to with hatred, is what most of us will be retiring on. Many mutual funds, Ira's, etc... invest into all kinds of industries and insurance companies are often part of those investments. The insurance companies charge the amount they do because inside that insurer is a "shared responsibility" approach, share the costs equally between all participating members. But lets not forget our part in this nightmare everyone seems to think this is. What role do play and what effect is it having on the health care system. I seen more than one thread about having us unionize so we can get the wages we want and demand as nurses. Does anyone think the two aren't connected? And nurses aren't the only one's who want higher wages, think of everyone in all the various departments who feel very justified in demanding high wages. We also push to get the minimum wage up and in doing so we employers to take one of two options. First option for any employer may be to lay someone off, that increase in pay has to come from somewhere. In doing this we may have won in guaranteeing a higher minimum wage, but we also got someone else a pink slip. The other option that a company may do in response to the increased minimum wage is to pass the increased costs on to the consumer, which will put pressure to increase wages across the board, thus making the minimum wage ineffective right out of the gate. This is basic economics, and I know everybody is just in love with Europe, Canada, actually anywhere but here. Has anyone filed taxes or has talked to people from the various Utopia's that exist outside of the U.S. Be prepared to watch a very significant portion of income go to taxes, they when you purchase something you get the value added taxes applied to whatever it is. My Father-in-Law is German and does very well, he's in the 70% tax bracket. How many of you want to get up and go to work tomorrow and turn over 0.70 cents for every dollar you earn to the Federal Government. I don't think I want to work anymore if that happens. There really is a reason that America is called the economic engine of the world.

    There are people right now developing new treatments, new drugs, new assertive devices all in hopes of making money. There is nothing inherently evil in wanting to make money. The drug companies have, for the 25 years I know of, worked to make sure people who need their medications get them regardless of the person ability to pay.

    And I just have to say one more thing, just because someone says something many times and they say it loudly, it doesn't make it true. Really, I believe it was Churchill (the intelligent one, not the idiot in Colorado) who said, "A lie will be half way round the world while the truth is still putting his pants on."

    And, by the way, we won in Vietnam, the media just didn't want us to so they repeated negative down beat stories until we had to leave. Please review the Tet Offensive, it did take a few weeks but North Vietnamese were on the run. Just please do some actual research and look at how things work now and what they will probably look like if "your changes" were put into action.

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