Controversial Michael Moore Flick 'Sicko' Will Compare U.S. Health Care with Cuba's - page 2

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  1. by   HM2VikingRN
    Dissent and questioning of the status quo (especially when the status quo is failing) is simply a way of asking "How can we do better?"
  2. by   Maxs
    Although MM is not credible to speak of this subject, he is however, a celebrity/journalist and has the resources/right to make such documentaries and report it. The point of this documentary is to inform the public of this health desparitie (corrupt in the insurance business, congress and etc). On top of that, politicians are governed by three important principles; votes, funding, and publicity. Therefore, if this topic becomes important to the people, they're more likely to vote for the candidates in their best interest. So, we have raised this issue in nursing school, and guess what, none of us made a documentary about it because were not journalist. Therefore, I cheer for MM for his effort to make this documentary because you are not likely to hear such issues on the news (publicity) or from who ever pays congress (funding). And for those that believe MM is bashing this great nation, remember that this great nation is shaped by revolutionist who find the current policies/trends peccable.

    Maxs
  3. by   Pumpkin1621
  4. by   Fonenurse
    I don't understand what you think is sicko about this - it's all true! We don't pay at the point of delivery (except for dental work) - and we do give people money if they can't afford their travel expenses... health care is funded from taxation...
  5. by   hushpupgrl
    i wouldn't believe anything from micheal moore....his film does not show the true healthcare that the average citizen gets in cuba
  6. by   Pumpkin1621
    Quote from Fonenurse
    I don't understand what you think is sicko about this - it's all true! We don't pay at the point of delivery (except for dental work) - and we do give people money if they can't afford their travel expenses... health care is funded from taxation...
    Sicko is the title of the movie.
  7. by   ProudGayRN
    Quote from CraigB-RN
    Hmm now we're into politics.

    Personally I admire people who have the courage to speak their thoughts. That is what the 1st amendment is all about. Now do I have to agree with them? Nope. That's one of the reasons this country is what it is today.
    Yes Craig, i have heard through the grapevine this forum actually discourages debate by banning or limiting posts of people that have alternating viewpoints...for instance, you will see a lot of support for universal healthcare on these forums but relatively little opposition. Reason being because people with conservative viewpoints are censored or banned by the moderators, its a pretty sad thing actually - so much for debate right? so much for freedom of speech? Not so much here....
  8. by   Freedom42
    Quote from hushpupgrl
    i wouldn't believe anything from micheal moore....his film does not show the true healthcare that the average citizen gets in cuba
    Just curious: On what are you basing your comment? Is this film being shown anywhere in the United States at this point beyond news clips? I have not seen it.

    From the New York Times:

    "The Cuba segment of the film has drawn most of the attention, but occupies relatively little screen time. Much of ''Sicko'' consists of moving testimony from Americans who have suffered at the hands of insurance companies, drug firms and HMOs. That includes a mother whose daughter died because the nearest hospital could not treat her, and a man who was told the cost of reattaching his two severed fingers would be $60,000 for the middle finger and $12,000 for the ring finger."

    For what it's worth, Cuba's infant mortality rate is lower than that of the United States.
  9. by   sirI
    Posts #14-20 merged with existing thread about same topic.
  10. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from ARealMan
    Personally I admire people who have the courage to speak their thoughts. That is what the 1st amendment is all about. Now do I have to agree with them? Nope. That's one of the reasons this country is what it is today.
    I agree 100% I dont like it when people deride or degrades this great country., i have heard through the grapevine this forum actually discourages debate by banning or limiting posts of people that have alternating viewpoints...for instance, you will see a lot of support for universal healthcare on these forums but relatively little opposition. Reason being because people with conservative viewpoints are censored or banned by the moderators, its a pretty sad thing actually - so much for debate right? so much for freedom of speech? Not so much here....[/quote]


    Whoa there dude, we have had many very heated debates on this forum about universal healthcare and the conservatives voiced their opinion vehemently against universal healthcare, they certainly got to speak as loudly as any liberal on this issue on this forum, you are misinformed, look up the old universal healthcare threads, see for yourself.
    Last edit by Simplepleasures on May 23, '07
  11. by   bethin
    Quote from battpos
    How Un-American of you to hold up France, of all places as an example to us. Don't you know we are in a war against the terrorists? I bet you don't even have a ribbon magnet on your SUV! You probably are aiding and abetting illegal aliens too! You are the reason Taco Bell had to pay an extra penny per bushel to those illegal aliens and forego giving their CEO an extra million dollars last year!
    Shame on you!
    You're kidding, right? Ok, you don't want to be compared to France. How about being compared to China, Sudan, Pakistan, Iran and Iraq? We're in the same group as them when it comes to the number of executions.

    As an American citizen I consider it my duty to question the government and not blindly follow wherever they may lead us. Checks and balances.

    And what does Taco Bell have to do with the price of tea in China?
  12. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from ARealMan
    I agree 100% I dont like it when people deride or degrades this great country., i have heard through the grapevine this forum actually discourages debate by banning or limiting posts of people that have alternating viewpoints...for instance, you will see a lot of support for universal healthcare on these forums but relatively little opposition. Reason being because people with conservative viewpoints are censored or banned by the moderators, its a pretty sad thing actually - so much for debate right? so much for freedom of speech? Not so much here....
    Not true, at all.

    I post against gov't restricted healthcare (and on other conservative issues/POVs) all the time. And you can SEE the number of posts I've managed to rack up.

    Another poster here, a political sister, has more than 3 times as many posts as I do. (btw, political sis, my serious new gf has your same first name). She certainly hasn't been censored for her views.

    The thing is, the MODS discourage incivility. You CAN debate an issue, no matter what point of view you hold, without being rude. It's the presentation, not the position, that will get mod attn.

    I think there is much more support for gov't restricted healthcare in this forum because nurses tend to be more liberal.

    That's not always the case, though, and CERTAINLY not the case here.

    BTW, MM being a credible spokesperson on the topic of gov't restricted healthcare is like Ann Coulter being the definitive spokesperson on affirmative action. I'm sure she has much to say on the topic. The point is, are her views likely to be credible to anyone not on the far wing? Neither are MM's to anybody but HIS far wing.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Last edit by ZASHAGALKA on May 22, '07
  13. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    Not true, at all.

    I post against gov't restricted healthcare (and on other conservative issues/POVs) all the time. And you can SEE the number of posts I've managed to rack up.

    The thing is, the MODS discourage incivility. You CAN debate an issue, no matter what point of view you hold, without being rude.

    I think there is much more support for gov't restricted healthcare in this forum because nurses tend to be more liberal.

    That's not always the case, though, and CERTAINLY not the case here.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Yup . . .Timmy's right! Another conservative chiming in here. I've not been censored ever. (Sheesh - i just looked and I have over 14,000 posts!!)

    And regarding battpos' post . . . it WAS sarcasm . . .I don't agree with it but it was funny.

    As to MM . . . . I am curious how he treats nurses and docs in this "mock-u-mentory".

    steph (Right-Wing Wacko Born Again Rush Limbaugh Listeniing Christian). :-)
    Last edit by Spidey's mom on May 22, '07

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