Colorado - Illegal Immigrants no longer eligble for state health care - page 18

Effective Aug. 1, state services, including the state health plans and welfare, will no longer be given to illegal immigrants in Colorado. This law, enacted by Gov. Bill Owens, in considered the... Read More

  1. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from twograce
    you know I think we should do a little more advocating. after all, the united states is built on immigrants. Our ancestors were all immagrants. or have we all forgotten this. if they are illegal, make them legal and then they can pay like the rest of us have to do, but arbitrally cutting off healthcare is asking for trouble down the road, look at the disease,etc they are or can be bringing to us and we may be sending back with them........
    Why do WE have to 'make them legal'? I don't know if you know it, but we ALREADY have a process in place for people to come here legally. They just don't want to wait. Hell no I don't support 'making them all legal' just because they are already here.
    All illegal immigrants know that they can try to come over legally, but they choose the other -illegal- route. I will not support anything that rewards them for their criminal activity.
  2. by   Bindy
    Well, I think this thread has enough replys to gain some attention. Why don't we all group together and have a rally? They do it waiving there non-american flags.

    Oh...,but wait, we work...so I guess we don't have the time.

    Bindy:uhoh21:
  3. by   shawnrj
    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    Why do WE have to 'make them legal'? I don't know if you know it, but we ALREADY have a process in place for people to come here legally. They just don't want to wait. Hell no I don't support 'making them all legal' just because they are already here.
    All illegal immigrants know that they can try to come over legally, but they choose the other -illegal- route. I will not support anything that rewards them for their criminal activity.
    Oh, but they say they are not criminals. Hmmmm, let's analyze that statement.....they cross over our border and come into the United States illegally (which is in violation of Federal Immigration laws of the U.S.), they knowingly purchase Social Security cards that have numbers that belong to someone else which is a Federal crime. From how I see it, you break a federal law, you are technically a criminal, correct?
  4. by   cardiacRN2006
    Not true Bindy, at the last ralley and Boycott there were plenty of American flags. They were just upside down beneath the other flags.
    That's exactly the kind of people who should citizenship fast forwarded to them, right? The kind of people that enter illegally, steal money from the government (illegally), obtain work (illegally) from others' identities, and then make threats and demands that we treat them better through public 'rallies' and boycotts.

    Oh, and BTW, they demand that we don't call them illegal. It hurts their feelings.
  5. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from shawnrj
    Oh, but they say they are not criminals. Hmmmm, let's analyze that statement.....they cross over our border and come into the United States illegally (which is in violation of Federal Immigration laws of the U.S.), they knowingly purchase Social Security cards that have numbers that belong to someone else which is a Federal crime. From how I see it, you break a federal law, you are technically a criminal, correct?
    Yes, if you break multiple laws then you are a criminal.
  6. by   Mary Austin
    I just love paying for thier healthcare! After all I pay one thousand one hundred dollars a month for MY FAMILY's Health benefits EACH MONTH! How is that for contributing to THEIR health care! This is the reason why our country is going broke! The illegals do not carry health insurance so they get to treat for free (on my dime) at their local ER. If they cannot make it then they should turn right around and go back to THEIR country! They should also get in line just like my ancestors did long ago and enter LEGALLY!

    As I ponder this situation I often wonder if I CAN GO TO ANY OTHER COUNTRY and receive FREE MEDICAL CARE and FREE MONEY just like the wonderful USA provides to immigrants with five and six "legal" children per couple. What about responsible reproduction instead of how much more a mommy can get for another child off the welfare system. (Seen it in three generations of one family!)

    No...I am not lucky for having health care...I am paying for it by WORKING 12 hours shifts, night-shift, never see my kids except two nights a week, have not had a real vacation in a few years, but I provide for my family, health insurance and all. What a concept.

    Now if we can just get those IVDA's with those "spider bites" from spending 3-5 weeks in the hospital after shooting up and becoming infected! There is another "sucking population". OOPS, I know..... I am NOT politically correct here. NO APOLOGIES from me! Oh yeah, when I retire I will look at the states that have enacted the same law as Colorado. Toche' Gov. Bill Owens! Thank you Thank you!
    Last edit by Mary Austin on Sep 8, '06
  7. by   Nitngale
    Quote from brax881
    That sickens me No wonder there won't be any left when I retire, despite the fact I will have put in for many years
    I too know of a case. My friend's son is married to a Chinese lady, whom came here 20 years ago at age of 19. She followed her 8 brothers . All received college educations here and they're all in the high tech field except one who owns a restaurant . They all make over a $100,000 a year and she and her husband live in Palo Alto (rich neighborhood), When she found out that her parents could get SS if they were citizens, she brought them over and they supported them for I think it is two years. Now her parents (in their '70s) both get SS though they've never worked a day in their life here and only became citizens to get benefits. They get medicare also. They make no attempt to learn English and spend six months out of the year in China. This country is dying of Congestive Heart Failure.
  8. by   RebeccaJeanRN
    So...considering all the posts & passions expressed above...what are you all doing, in terms of political support, fundraising, donations and activism...to help change anything in the USA? To move things toward whichever direction you support? Are there any true activists among us? I'm just curious...
  9. by   happywelshwitch
    My friend was born in Germany while his parents were living there. He is a US citizen. Our social services can not continue to support the illegals, there are medical facilities that have closed their doors because they are now bankrupt. I hope all the states follow Colorado's lead, it shows concern for the working person. The one who pays into social security, local, state and federal taxes. Our socical service will colaspe as we know it, if something is not done. Then what little benifits are offered to legal citzens will end. Where do you think this will lead? More homeless, more elderly eating cat food because they can't afford anything else, no health care for our most needy.
    I say Colorado has the right idea.
  10. by   elish954
    [font=book antiqua]i guess the bottom line is.... thank our government. let's face it. if you are big business, there are more bucks to be made if you can get away from paying the us citizens a decent rage. hire illegal immigrants. no problem. nothing will happen to you.
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    [font=book antiqua]i am so tired of hearing that they cannot find american workers who are willing to do these jobs. well. duh. who can afford to live on the wages paid to these illegals. i know of situations where they have numerous illegals living under one roof like packed sardines.
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    [font=book antiqua]also look at how many jobs are being lost in our country to china, mexico, india etc. guess we can thank our government for this situation as well.

    [font=book antiqua]i agree with the post that stated concern about there not be any ss available for our generation after all the years of paying into it. oops. could the government have anything to do with this also????? many of our generation will have their retirements taken away also. scary. isn't it.
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    [font=book antiqua]nough said. :angryfire
  11. by   pickledpepperRN
    A car company can move it's factories to Mexico and claim it's a free market.
    A toy company can out source to a Chinese subcontractor and claim it's a free market.
    A shoe company can produce its shoes in south east Asia and claim it's a free market.
    A major bank can incorporate in Bermuda to avoid taxes and claim it's a free market.
    We can buy HP Printers made in Mexico .
    We can buy shirts made in Bangladesh .
    We can purchase almost anything we want from 20 different countries

    BUT, heaven help the senior citizens who dare to buy their prescription drugs from a Canadian pharmacy. That's called un-American! And you think the pharmaceutical companies don 't have a powerful lobby?
  12. by   Multicollinearity
    I don't believe it that Americans won't do these jobs even if the wage were a bit higher. Recently I heard Senator John McCain saying that Americans won't do these jobs, such as picking fruits and veggies. He said if the jobs paid $20 per hour - Americans still wouldn't do it. I say BUNK! My own grandmother picked lettuce every season. So did my grandfather. Finances were tight, but they had a car, and owned their own home and provided for their 2 kids. My point...yes...Americans would do these jobs if they could exist on the wages. Big business doesn't want to pay the wages. Yes, it would raise the prices for our produce. I'd pay more though, as a consumer, to support a society that pays AMERICANS a living wage.
  13. by   pickledpepperRN
    My folks was Okies. Lots was farm workers. We was born in the USA. (Grammar used as humor. My grandparents talked like that.)
    http://www.answers.com/topic/okie

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