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Hello, I'm looking into a career as an RN and I am just curious - Are nurses forced to assist abortions? I've heard recently of several nurses being forced to assist or they lose their job. Is this... Read More

  1. Visit  NeoNatMom profile page
    #78 0
    China and India kill just because they want to limit females withing population. There is no way you can say that we shouldn't be involved in the ethics of caring for the patient. One, it is patients, as in there are 2 ppl involved. Secondly, how we care for our patients involves certain ethical standards to protect the patients. PatientS.
  2. Visit  NeoNatMom profile page
    #79 1
    Oh and since you want to say the child has its own body, which I already pointed out, then why can't women kill their children after they are born? They are still using their bodies to supply the newborn with food whether it be bought or breastfeeding. It's her body right? So if her body decided to abandon the child I. A public trash can, well I guess she chose to do with her body such a hideous action. People express opinion on here all the time and this topic is relevant for expressing it. Everyone here is doing it so what? The first pro lifer comes and makes her stance and now you jump in and say I shouldn't? Wow. It's in the constitution. Freedom of expression.
  3. Visit  morte profile page
    #80 6
    this didn't start out as a thread about abortion, only if nurses would be forced to participate, therefore it is not a place for your thought, start your own thread. So, that said, Neo, the girl with leukemia should die, taking her fetus with her, correct? this is your thoughts, correct? the young woman who died of an ectopic, that was her deserved end, correct? because that is where your thought process takes us.
    Quote from NeoNatMom
    Oh and since you want to say the child has its own body, which I already pointed out, then why can't women kill their children after they are born? They are still using their bodies to supply the newborn with food whether it be bought or breastfeeding. It's her body right? So if her body decided to abandon the child I. A public trash can, well I guess she chose to do with her body such a hideous action. People express opinion on here all the time and this topic is relevant for expressing it. Everyone here is doing it so what? The first pro lifer comes and makes her stance and now you jump in and say I shouldn't? Wow. It's in the constitution. Freedom of expression.
  4. Visit  la_chica_suerte85 profile page
    #81 8
    Wow.............

    Ummm....I don't know about this. I mean, there are some serious reasons as to why a woman would require an abortion and as a nurse (especially if that falls within the scope of your chosen specialty) then you should have no problems with providing her with the best, safest care possible. Why does it always come down to the notion that ALL women who have ever had abortions ever are just "selfish" people casting aside a baby because they were so irresponsible as to put this "inconvenience" upon themselves? Because women who use abortion as their primary means of birth control are the only (ONLY!) women who get abortions ever (EVARRRR!). It's a much more complex issue than that and, either way, medicine is medicine and you can't abandon your patient. If a woman was having an abortion due to a tubal pregnancy you seriously would have a problem with assisting and providing care? Seriously?? Then you have no idea the reality of any of this.
  5. Visit  madwife2002 profile page
    #82 3
    This is a very touchy subject, where many people have strong views-please try and be objective when posting on this thread or we will have no alternative but to close it for cooling down
  6. Visit  Esme12 profile page
    #83 7
    Quote from NeoNatMom
    Regardless we were not hired to kill. Pure and simple. It is completely different if it is a disease. The child is not a disease. Rules don't make it right. I have a mind and it is wrong regardless of how anyone on here tries to justify killing children. People are becoming more blind about this reality the more health care personnel support it. Like I said, abortion is NOT HEALTH CARE. Just because I may not work in that area, doesn't make it okay if others do it, or is it okay for a mother to kill her child at any age?
    It is clear you ahve very strong feeling about this topic...you absolutely have every right to feel as you do. But as nurses we are not involving our personal/thoughts/beliefs/opinions interfere with our professional demeanor.

    This is a controversial subject. There are strong opinions on both sides of the isle. NO ONE is advocating the "killing of children" nor are we "hired to kill". Roe v Wade made abortion legal. As nurses we are obligated to provide care to the patient regardless of our own personal opinions. Nurses have very right to not participate if she has strong moral feelings. However we do not bring our personal agenda to the patient.

    This is why nurses who are opposed to the procedure are given the legal opportunity/obligation to opt out of the care of the patient.
  7. Visit  Esme12 profile page
    #84 6
    The topic of this thread...Are nurses forced to assist abortions?

    The answer is no.
  8. Visit  BillyTheKind profile page
    #85 1
    In my facility there were concerns over this, the facility pushed for this initially but I think with many of the staff siting religious beliefs they let it drop.

    I am a Christian and do not believe in abortion. As a healthcare professional I think abortion is an abomination however a necessity in some cases. I don't believe the hospital should not be able to force something on a person that conflicts with their religious or personal beliefs.

    Abortion is and has always been a "hot button" and a case could be legally made that is IS part of a nurses job since it falls under a legal procedure in the healthcare industry.
  9. Visit  NeoNatMom profile page
    #86 1
    If not having an abortion could lead to the death of the mother, then obviously there would be more to consider because the death of both could result if some form of action does not take place. I don't favor the child over the mother at all. I just looked up how many medically necessary abortions are reported to the CDC each year and the needed to not needed abortion ratio speaks for itself. Im glad I got into this discussion because it enlightened me on what people consider to be providing health care. And I am so glad we do not have to, by law , provide the service if it goes against personal beliefs. Question, do nursing programs require their students to be involved in one, even to the point of observation?
  10. Visit  subee profile page
    #87 5
    I never saw a nurse forced to participate in an abortion. However, I've had to assist in many barbaric procedures on patients. These folks are dying but the nursing home won't take them back without a feeding tube so they come to endo for their feeding tube insertions.
    And there's many more egregious procedures done every day to patients who have no one to protect them from the medical-industrial complex. Life is not as simple and no one cares about your belief system. It's just that - a belief. Beliefs can come from ignorance, irrationality or from practitioners who actually have to make these day to day decisions and actually do their intellectual very best to do the right thing for the patient. Forcing an 11 year to have a baby is unethical. (That was my youngest C-section but there are many other children having their children). Rigidity is never a reasonable response to an ethical dilemma. It's just closing your eyes, your brain and sticking you head in the sand.
  11. Visit  NeoNatMom profile page
    #88 0
    I still dont know what the answer is, lol. I'm sure the industry is not all unicorns and rainbows, but I wanted to know if programs require us to do anything that is to do with abortions. Why I ask is that if they dont, then I can decide for myself depending on specialty and level of education what i will and wont do. If there are situations where in order to save a life, hard decisions have to be made, then okay. But that is not what I was asking.
  12. Visit  subee profile page
    #89 5
    BTW, you can't be opposed to abortion because you are Christian. All faiths have sects that don't believe in the mainstream teaching of the church. I'm sure there are atheists opposed to abortion - perhaps on grounds of legal rights...I don't know. But just because you are one religion or another doesn't entitle you to distort an entire religion's perspective on an issue. Abortion is the only procedure that I'm aware of that offers federal protection for you. However, regardless of what field of nursing you end up in, you will go home days feeling like you've participated in something morally squishy, and you DON"T get to pick and choose which ones you're not going to do. That's all I'm saying.
  13. Visit  NeoNatMom profile page
    #90 0
    it isnt because of religion that i feel what i do at all. i have always been opposed since before being Christian. And you assumed I was because I never mentioned my religion, just that it goes against my beliefs, which don't have to be religious at all lol. I am still waiting for the answer to my question on school programs. I will make choices of other situations as they are presented to me. If you do not have an answer, then please, move on.

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