Are nurses forced to assist abortions? - page 3

Hello, I'm looking into a career as an RN and I am just curious - Are nurses forced to assist abortions? I've heard recently of several nurses being forced to assist or they lose their job. Is this... Read More

  1. Visit  decembergrad2011 profile page
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    I don't understand why there is so much hoopla. Abortion is a legal medical procedure. It is a private decision between a woman and her healthcare provider, and potentially her family or friends. Deal with it or avoid the areas of nursing where you could encounter it. I do consider it to be part of the potential job duties of OB and surgical nurses. If I was against administering chemotherapy, it would be pretty stupid of me to take a job as an oncology nurse and refuse chemo patients, expecting the rest of my co-workers to pick up the slack.

    To me, it's like a teenager getting a job at a retail store and realizing that they have to fold clothes or they'll be fired. It's not about you!! I had a clinical instructor that said it best: "It's not your place to decide for your patients, and if you can't handle the ethical dilemmas in your workplace without being biased, switch specialties."

    The truth is, abortion isn't different from any of the countless other ethical dilemmas we encounter in the hospital. It's simply heated because it makes for a fantastic political soapbox during election time, and as a result, many people have made it their mission to polarize the debate.
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  3. Visit  Tofayelbd profile page
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    If any where something to do forcefully, you should leave this. We are not bound for anything, but we should agree to maintain legal rules and regulations.
  4. Visit  misdodgyny profile page
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    I voluntarily provided care to women undergoing abortions for 13 years, and found it incredibly rewarding. Like it or not, abortion is a legal option, and so I believe in providing this service as safely as possible. Every woman making that choice has a right to high quality care from nonjudgmental providers. Nursing is about caring for patients with compassion, regardless of one's personal feelings about their choices.
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  5. Visit  caroladybelle profile page
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    Quote from AZnurse_2B
    I wish it was as simple as this. Part of the new healthcare plan includes mandates that all hospitals (even those that are Catholic) perform so many abortions each year to qualify for federal funding. If all that actually comes into effect, those hospitals will either comply or be at serious risk of going out of business. This also will mean that hospitals will need nurses to perform those procedures. If this is something that matters to you, it's a great time to speak up and have a voice in the matter.

    As of now though, Catholic hospitals do not typically perform abortions.
    Please cite a link for the above statement.

    I keep abreast of such things and have heard nothing of the sort from legitimate sources.
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  6. Visit  deann52 profile page
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    I work in L&D and an OBGYN clinic. We do medical TABS and < 12 week D&C's. In my situation I have no choice but to care for them prior and after, but I do not have to asist as long as there is another equally qualified person to replace me. We sign that paperwork at orientation. If you really don't want to come in contact with them OB is not your field
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  7. Visit  Ginger's Mom profile page
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    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...cy-with-longst

    I agree with the posters, if you find it morally wrong to take care of patients who had abortions, get another job and lobby to make abortions illegal. The patient's bedside is not the place for politics.
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  8. Visit  AZnurse_2B profile page
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    No need for snarky comments. I will gladly post more information/clarification, but my two best sources are well-respected MDs who are doing international healthcare consulting in Columbia at the moment (returning next week I believe). I do know that this was addressed at the Catholic Medical Association 80th Annual Meeting just last month here in Phoenix.
    Last edit by AZnurse_2B on Nov 30, '11
  9. Visit  AZnurse_2B profile page
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    Quote from decembergrad2011
    I don't understand why there is so much hoopla. Abortion is a legal medical procedure. It is a private decision between a woman and her healthcare provider, and potentially her family or friends. Deal with it or avoid the areas of nursing where you could encounter it.
    If you look at it strictly from a legal perspective, this doesn't carry much weight since it is currently illegal for any public authority to force a healthcare provider to assist in an abortion if it violates his or her religious beliefs or moral convictions.
  10. Visit  MN-Nurse profile page
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    Quote from lookingintoRN
    Hello,
    I'm looking into a career as an RN and I am just curious - Are nurses forced to assist abortions? I've heard recently of several nurses being forced to assist or they lose their job. Is this the case with most hospitals?

    I've asked on other sites and apparently it's a dumb question, sorry.

    Thanks for your help.
    I'm fairly convinced this post, and many others like it, are trolls planted by anti-abortion types.
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  11. Visit  PeepnBiscuitsRN profile page
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    I don't know, I think it could be legit. People want to know what they're getting into- myself, I wouldn't have a problem caring for someone before or after the procedure, but I wouldn't want to assist with one, and yes I DO want to work in OB- which is why I'm being careful- I wouldn't work in an OB clinic because they do AB there and staffing is usually pretty small so I'd probably be expected to assist. I could pick up and work at the 2 hospitals in the area that are Catholic run, and don't do abortions (and they're both pretty big name in my area). The hospital I work at has a free standing gyn clinic that does it- so the L/D department doesn't deal with it.

    So yes, I agree, pick your locale carefully.
  12. Visit  Ginger's Mom profile page
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    Quote from AZnurse_2B
    If you look at it strictly from a legal perspective, this doesn't carry much weight since it is currently illegal for any public authority to force a healthcare provider to assist in an abortion if it violates his or her religious beliefs or moral convictions.
    I think this is where the word assist is in debate. The nurses in NJ were given a pass on the procedure, they are refusing to give pre op and post op care...where do you draw the line. Do they have the right to never take care of women who had a procedure they felt morally or religiously opposed to?
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  13. Visit  tamara1313 profile page
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    I've traveled all over the country working as an RN for years, and I have learned from the experience the following situations;
    1) You are forced because it is an emergency in the operating room, and you are on call and there IS NO ONE ELSE.
    2) You are forced because someone who is above you or in charge is not flexible with adjusting the schedule.
    3) The charge nurse jumps in after you have complained and takes the assignment, becomes very annoyed and talks about you to other staff members that you are REFUSING an assignment.
    ***So sorry, but I've seen it happen way to many times, all scenarios, and no one will stick up for you. The fact is, abortions elective, or missed, are all surgical procedures done within an operating room setting. If you can not accept the fact that it is part of your job description, than you are not an asset to any OR, and should look into other departments. With respect to whatever beliefs that you have, it is unfair for other staff to have to pick up the slack.
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  14. Visit  Ginger's Mom profile page
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    Quote from tamara1313
    I've traveled all over the country working as an RN for years, and I have learned from the experience the following situations;
    1) You are forced because it is an emergency in the operating room, and you are on call and there IS NO ONE ELSE.
    2) You are forced because someone who is above you or in charge is not flexible with adjusting the schedule.
    3) The charge nurse jumps in after you have complained and takes the assignment, becomes very annoyed and talks about you to other staff members that you are REFUSING an assignment.
    ***So sorry, but I've seen it happen way to many times, all scenarios, and no one will stick up for you. The fact is, abortions elective, or missed, are all surgical procedures done within an operating room setting. If you can not accept the fact that it is part of your job description, than you are not an asset to any OR, and should look into other departments. With respect to whatever beliefs that you have, it is unfair for other staff to have to pick up the slack.
    These nurses are not OR nurses, they work pre and post op......great points.
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