Agencies. Doesnt it just make you sick?????? - page 2

How interesting that the entire article is all about how lucrative travel agencies are...... for the owners of the travel agencies! And what great timing the owners had to be cashing in on "the... Read More

  1. by   heatherm147
    I occasionally work agency-my agency is nurse run. My home hospital does not employ agency and the number of nurses leaving my emerg due to the poor working conditions and the high expectations of management and clients(can't call them patients because we are a business now, working up patients, not allowing time for teaching and caring). My agency gives me the shifts I need to allow me to spend enough time with my daughter, flexibility in these shifts and encourages me to educate myself and actually pays for courses, unlike my hospital.
  2. by   -jt
    <<if hospitals weren't 1) treating their employees like crap, and 2) willing to pay those travel co exec's those exhorbitant fees, then agencies would not be getting richer.>>

    I know! LOL!! Thats the point! So they should give the nurses a bigger share of the pile! lol.

    We're a hot commodity. What theyre selling is us! So why shouldnt we get a larger share of what we're bringing in? Why should we have to choose between salary & sanity?

    PS
    The article was referring to travel agencies only. I dont know of any other kinds of agencies that are raking in that kind of money either.
    Last edit by -jt on Mar 13, '02
  3. by   gr8nurse4u
    Originally posted by -jt
    <It's okay with me if my agency makes a big profit.... they go far beyond what any employer in my past ever has!>

    I guess we're just not looking at the same thing. Its a disgrace that as an RN you were in the situation you were in before - earning $10/hr?????? How dare they. No wonder they cant find nurses. Its great that you are now being paid and treated better.... and have found an agency that is responsive!

    If you are making $20/hr now you have doubled your income but if I, with almost 20 yrs experience was to take some of the travel jobs I have been offered with that salary, Id be cutting my salary in half.

    I know about the housing expenses and benefits but ex-hubby pays the mortgage & I have free health benefits as a staff RN so that wouldnt make a difference for me. Only my salary would be affected & it would be less.

    I just think that if those agencies can be giving you what they are giving you now, and STILL be making $518 MILLION a year for themselves, then they can do even better for you and give you even more of a share of the cash pie that you worked to get them.

    Why should we settle for the minimum improvement? With the kind of money the agencies are making off supplying nurses, they can afford to pay the nurses better than $20/hr.

    Just because what a nurse may have now travelling is better than what she had before shouldnt mean that there cant be even more improvement for her. I understand your point that youre happy because your quality of life is so much better now. But you cant travel with kids forever. It would be nice to be paid enough so we can have some savings set aside for when that time comes.

    I think the agencies can do even more for the nurses in actual pay if they are bringing in that kind of money for the agency & getting the owners rich.
    I forgot to mention that I'm an LPN. I haven't seen my current wage offered to LPN's that are not travelers. Still, I make more now than the RN's at my last job made.

    also, traveling with kids isn't so bad. I haven't had to move to my second job yet. Most of the hospitals hiring travelers have chronic staffing problems. There are a couple of travelers here that are going on year #2 at the same place. So far, I've renewed my 13 week contract twice (9 months employment) with comments from my supervisor that they would like to keep me longer. (keeps them from having to train another traveler). Sure, they'd like to stop using travelers, but there's not exactly a flood of new-hires pounding down their door.

    but I do see your point. I see better opportunities in my future and do not plan to travel forever. Thank you for commenting, Kimber
  4. by   -jt
    There are a couple of travelers here that are going on year #2 at the same place. So far, I've renewed my 13 week contract twice (9 months employment) with comments from my supervisor that they would like to keep me longer. (keeps them from having to train another traveler). Sure, they'd like to stop using travelers, but there's not exactly a flood of new-hires pounding down their door. >>

    They dont seem to get the point that the travelers are there because of what they are getting from the travel agencies. If as a traveler you are earning better than the staff, what reason would people have to be pounding down the hospital doors to be staff? Maybe if the hospital gave what the travelers are getting, there would be new hires to be found. Dont these administrators think??
  5. by   gr8nurse4u
    Originally posted by -jt
    There are a couple of travelers here that are going on year #2 at the same place. So far, I've renewed my 13 week contract twice (9 months employment) with comments from my supervisor that they would like to keep me longer. (keeps them from having to train another traveler). Sure, they'd like to stop using travelers, but there's not exactly a flood of new-hires pounding down their door. >>

    They dont seem to get the point that the travelers are there because of what they are getting from the travel agencies. If as a traveler you are earning better than the staff, what reason would people have to be pounding down the hospital doors to be staff? Maybe if the hospital gave what the travelers are getting, there would be new hires to be found. Dont these administrators think??
    No, they're not thinking. If my last employer treated me well to begin with, I'd never have even considered traveling. I am looking forward to the day when these hospitals DO wise up. I would love to take a permanent position that offers the pay and benefits I'm getting now. Maybe the increased use of travelers will cause some administrators to rethink the way they treat their regular staff and make some big changes.
    The place I'm working at now does offer "Premium Pay" for staff nurses. Everything compares to what I make with one exception. The rent. My agency pays an equivalent of $800/mo toward my housing. Multiply that by 12 and you'll see why I remain a traveler. Kimberly
  6. by   hoolahan
    I see jt, I thought you meant all agencies. I guess the travelers are making a lot more money. But still, the hospital could do the same exact thing for those nurses, pay them the same, w/o housing of course, and cut out the agencies, but my point is they won't. What baffles me is why the nurses in those hospitals stay when they realize the money that is paid to agencies could be going to them.

    I have said this before, I forsee the future as each nurse independently contracting with hospitals, b/c I honestly don't see nurses returning to those conditions any time soon.
  7. by   live4today
    I started working as a travel nurse in the Fall of 1988, 1 1/2 years out of college. The only reason I started traveling was to get as far away from my ex-husband and his shinanigans as possible, so I moved with my youngest daughter to Hawaii on a Travel Nurse Assignment to give me time to "heal" on "unknown turf". And, heal I did! I had a great time there! I loved traveling so much that I kept traveling for the next 2 1/2 years after Hawaii, and I would do it again today if I ever decide to return to nursing.

    I, too, always wondered why hospitals would pay out their butts for travel nurses and agency nurses instead of paying their staff nurses just as well in order to keep them from leaving. The military hospitals have even started using agency and contract nurses, claiming not enough nurses want to work for them anymore, and not enough are joining the military. The military hospital here has boo-coo contract nurses who say they like working here, so they stay on like staff, but get paid the big bucks! If we weren't about ready to leave Texas, I would give it a shot, but we don't have enough time left here (thank God) for me to consider it.

    Something should be done to stop this madness so staff nurses receive the pay they deserve. I'm all for it, even if I did enjoy traveling as a nurse once upon a time.
  8. by   Pam Johnson
    Regarding agency nursing I make anywhere from $35-52 dollars per hour working for various agencies. In my last regular hospital weekend program program job I made $41 an hour plus benefits. I think it would be a great idea if we nurses would develop our own professional , travelling agency. But the neccessary groundwork set up needs to be done. I once spoke with an LPN whose RN sister & herself owned their own agency. The LPN earned $130,000 per year on her nursing wages alone. Pretty amazing, huh! She explained to me that they had to post a $150,000 equity/cash bond in order to insure the business for liability/malpractice insurance. If there are any nurses willing to take the plunge, let me know, because I think we as nurses could undercut the competition & make more agency hourly wages besides. E-mail chdcc@execpc.com, if interested or call (920)788-4242. PJ RN
    Last edit by Pam Johnson on Mar 27, '02
  9. by   gr8nurse4u
    Originally posted by Pam Johnson
    If there are any nurses willing to take the plunge, let me know, because I think we as nurses could undercut the competition & make more agency hourly wages besides. E-mail chccc@execpc.com, if interested or call (920)788-4242. PJ RN
    PJ ... my email was returned. Any typos in the email address you listed?
  10. by   Pam Johnson
    gr8nurse,
    I corrected the E-mail address had too many c's. Corrected E-mail address: chdcc@execpc.com. PJ RN Nurse Solidarity.

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