Comparing a nurses' salary - page 4

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    "Why should you get paid more if you're doing the exact same job?"

    Good point, if it was true. Pick any 10 staff nurses in any single hospital floor. They are all doing the exact same job but they are all the different pay rates.

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    Quote from BrandonLPN
    Why should you get paid more if you're doing the exact same job? If you think you deserve more, then go find a management position that actually utilizes all that extra school.
    I agree. Just because I went to community college and finished my bsn through an rn-bsn program with a total of 12k in loans (wpuld have been a total of that much if I lived in state but my rn-bsn program says one mile into next state means I pay almost triple! But it was my choice to go there) doesnt mean that at anytime during the time ive had my rn that I should be paid less. I worked hard and chose to save money. 12k for a bsn instead of the 100k ive heard from people. Same degree. Before graduation I had placed over 10 iv's, ran many cardiac drips, worked every department, and took a total of 4 patients and did complete cares so I dont feel my education suffered going the route I did.
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    Quote from RCBR
    "Why should you get paid more if you're doing the exact same job?"Good point, if it was true. Pick any 10 staff nurses in any single hospital floor. They are all doing the exact same job but they are all thedifferent pay rates.
    I don't get your point. Of course the nurses all don't make the same amount. A nurse who's been working for 20 years deserves to make more than the new grad. You move up the pay scale with experience. But BSNs do not deserve a separate, higher pay scale than the ADNs.
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    Quote from RCBR
    The RN pay structure needs to be changed to reflect the reality of the BSN educated RN who enters the profession with tens of thousands in students loans versus the ADN nurse who starts almost debt free.
    I started nursing here in the deep south in 1993 my starting pay was 12.50/hr with 2.00/hr shift diff and .50/hr for ACLS and .50/hr for PALS. So I started at 15.00/hr - 9 years later I was making 22.00/hr plus shift diff but nothing for any certifications. I would have loved to start at 20+/hr. I was, within 2 years of starting, making more per hour than my husband who had been working for the PD for 20 years. That really irked him as he had a Bachelors in Criminal Justice.

    I do not know what new grads around here make now but the statement that ADN's basically have no student loans? I graduated with my ASN (seems that ADN and ASN are used interchangeably)and my student loans were 18K and that is a fairly good chunk of change for anyone to have to pay back.
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    "The system is rigged so that those on the top get far more than they deserve, and while I resent that, it is how it is."

    Maybe when you are 30 years into your career, you will re think your position....
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    30K??? That's shameful! I used to make that at my serving gig! Nurses are horribly underpaid for what they do.
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    Quote from BrandonLPN
    I don't get your point. Of course the nurses all don't make the same amount. A nurse who's been working for 20 years deserves to make more than the new grad. You move up the pay scale with experience. But BSNs do not deserve a separate, higher pay scale than the ADNs.
    My point is that your point that exact same job should equal exact same pay ("Why should you get paid more if you're doing the exact same job?") doesn't hold water, as even you acknowleged that more experienced nurses deserve (and get) higher pay for performing the exact same job. By the way, after you get more experience and think of negotiating a higher pay, please remember what you told me: "If you think you deserve more, then go find a management position..."

    If the health care market financially rewards nurses who bring more experience to the job, I think it should also reward nurses who bring more education to the job. Sounds logical to me.
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    Quote from RCBR
    My point is that your point that exact same job should equal exact same pay ("Why should you get paid more if you're doing the exact same job?") doesn't hold water, as even you acknowleged that more experienced nurses deserve (and get) higher
    pay for performing the exact same job. By the way, after you get more experience and think of negotiating a higher pay, please remember what you told me: "If you think you deserve more, then go find a management position..."If the
    health care market financially
    rewards nurses who bring more experience to the job, I think it should also reward nurses who bring more education to the job. Sounds logical to me.
    Well, if they thought you could bring more to the table than a new grad ADN they would pay you more. Guess they don't think you do. A month of actual nursing experience is with more than a year of education.

    You can't seriously be comparing your extra coursework in the BSN program to the hands on experience of a seasoned nurse.
    Last edit by BrandonLPN on Aug 27, '12
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    Quote from BrandonLPN
    Well, if they thought you could bring more to the table than a new grad ADN they would pay you more. Guess they don't think you do. A month of actual nursing experience is with more than a year of education.

    You can't seriously be comparing your extra coursework in the BSN program to the hands on experience of a seasoned nurse.
    They are not equivalent, but more education means more qualification and more qualification should mean more pay, in my books at least.

    Now, even though that is what I think is fair, I do not think that we will see a significant BSN differential anytime soon. The way the health care market seems to be rewarding the extra education of BSN graduates is by hiring BSN graduates in the first place instead of ASN/ADN/Diploma graduates, as evidenced by the "BSN preferred" or "BSN required" new grad positions positions posted. That is how I think the market will deal with this issue.
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    Quote from BrandonLPN
    A month of actual nursing experience is with more than a year of education.
    very well said, and so very true....
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