Comparing a nurses' salary - page 9

The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports employment among Registered Nurses will grow faster than the average for all occupations through 2018. They also report that large metropolitan cities such as... Read More

  1. Visit  brandy1017} profile page
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    Quote from nursie_nursie_415
    During my first year as a new grad I made just under $90k working 32hrs/week on the evening shift. My second year I made just under $110k. I live & work in the Bay Area & these types of salaries are why nurses from all over the world are trying to work here. Those out-of-staters who do land jobs here unfortunately do not spend their money in Bay Area communities but instead spend their paychecks in their home towns. California is bankrupt, people! If you want to continue being paid these good salaries, be sure to support your local businesses - these are the people who are our patients/paying clients. I am not against non-Californians being hired in Bay Area hospitals, but it is important to "give back" instead of taking, taking, taking...

    Don't get me wrong - I have so much love for my fellow nurses who fly in from other states regularly for work here in the Bay Area to support their families back home, but my heart aches for my other fellow nurses who can't get jobs. The situation is not helped with all these "nursing schools" pumping our new grads every semester. California, what is happening to us?
    The pay sounds excellent but you're not factoring in the extremely high cost of living, aren't we talking about basic housing starting around 500,000!
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  3. Visit  brandy1017} profile page
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    I don't care if RN's are ADN or BSN, that's their preference. Most places do not pay more for BSN, except VA hospital system. It's true some hospitals are on the magnet push and prefer BSN, but I know many RN's who have still been able to get RN jobs with just an ADN. Maybe it depends where you live? Also their are many nurses that already have a BA/BS in another field and then when they can't get a decent paying job, they get their RN. If they are lucky they can get an accelerated BSN, but not many colleges in the area offer this option so considering student loans from their prior degree an ADN might be a better cheaper option. Instead of accellerated BSN programs, universities are offering direct entry Masters RN to NP training with the high grad school price tag to go along with it! Apparently this is more profitable for the universities. I know many new grad RN's with student loans around $100,000! Glad that's not me!

    I think hospitals are discovering the BSN is more expensive to the bottom line because most of the new grad RN's are jumping back to school to get their NP to put floor nursing with all its crap behind them as soon as possible! The good news is there will be lots of turnover for all the RN's in the pipeline!
  4. Visit  brandy1017} profile page
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    Quote from BrandonLPN
    I don't get your point. Of course the nurses all don't make the same amount. A nurse who's been working for 20 years deserves to make more than the new grad. You move up the pay scale with experience. But BSNs do not deserve a separate, higher pay scale than the ADNs.
    Given how tight fisted hospitals are with pay, I don't think you need to worry about hospitals paying more for BSN's anytime soon! That said, I do believe that RN's should be paid more for more education, like teachers get a pay bump when they get their MA. It is certainly reasonable! A BSN should get paid more and how about the MSN RN's working on the floor when they can't get that NP job! But I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen. The clinical ladder gives 1 point for ADN, 2 points for BSN and 3 points for MSN when you need 30 points for RN III and 45 points for RN IV for a piddly one time raise around 5% and if you don't come up with the points each year, they are very happy to demote you with a pay cut of course! But who knows, next year they might raise the points or change the rules to twist you into a pretzel just to hold onto a longtime ago raise! No thanks!
  5. Visit  brandy1017} profile page
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    Quote from nhnursie
    "The system is rigged so that those on the top get far more than they deserve, and while I resent that, it is how it is."

    Maybe when you are 30 years into your career, you will re think your position....

    Seniority only gets you so far and most payscales are compressed, also employers are actively paying senior employees less than newer ones for the same eval, apparently this is perfectly legal and not considered age discrimination for reasons unknown! A new employee with a great review might get 4%, while the senior employee would get 0-1 for the same eval! I don't know why this is even legal, but it is a common occurrence in corporate America and hospitals are now run by same bottom line corp HR personnel! If you are not in a union hospital you might not know this is even happening! Also if the plan is to get promoted to a high paying job, there are only so many management spots out there so not everyone is going to get their "coveted" lol high paid job.
  6. Visit  brandy1017} profile page
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    Quote from Teal72
    Yes seriously...I have no reason to lie..i don't know if you can access it but you can look up the KAiser permanente contracts online and see. Or I'd anyone else in the Sacramento Region please feel free to add.. Especially if you work at KAiser!
    Shows the power of a union! We all could use a good union like NLN in CA, those lucky enough to be in a good strong union or work for a state where the ANA is actively involved in unionization and bargaining are lucky indeed! Too bad so many of us have to work in non union hospitals and states where the ANA doesn't want to offend hospitals or taint their "professional" image by actually working to improve working conditions for the bedside nurse. I won't support the ANA in my state because they are unwilling to support unionization for us!

    Even doctors stuck working in HMO's have fought for the right to unionize and bargain over pay and working conditions in the assembly line "sweat shop" run till you drop that is healthcare today!
    Last edit by brandy1017 on Sep 5, '12
  7. Visit  Dandelionsandroses} profile page
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    In 2003, when I lived in Maryland, made over $100,000/year. Now in Georgia, with experience $70.000 +/year. You work your tail off, though. Higher patient ratios and usually no techs, just other overworked nurses on the floor. This is not including OT.
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    They claim the salary is higher because you are not taxed on most of your salary. I think it is a scam.
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    I am experienced nurse (17 years) returning for BSN--in Georgia, I do not pay tuition or fees, only for my books. (this starts at 62 years old)
  10. Visit  SE_BSN_RN} profile page
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    Quote from shodobe
    It seems to me there are a lot of people out there that are upst that they spent tons of money for a higher education only to find out that most if not all employeers want experience over a over educated nurse. For the person who thinks they should make more than me just because they decided they "needed" a BSN, well get a life! All hospitals, at least the decent ones, have a pay scale structure based on years of experience and not necessarily a education level. Yes, there are those that might get a bit more because of their higher level of education but not much. In any industry out there there will always be a pay structure based on your experience, period. Plumbers, teachers, firemen, etc all start out at the bottom and work their way up through years of just working. Just for your info I have 36 years of experince and the only ones who should make as much as I are the ones who have 30+ doing the same job. I am at the top of the pay scale at 53.84/hr. Most of you are just bitter and upset at the fact you will have many years of student loans whereas I have Nada! Get a grip, work hard and the rewards will pay off.
    Also to the guy above complaining about the ongoing "debate". There is no debate only the constant, ongoing whinning by a number of people still upset that their BSN isn't paying off now. Instead of complaining about ADNs not being "real" professional nurses maybe you should direct your anger at all the so-called "nursing schools" outside of this country churnning out inadequate nurses to take jobs from native trained RNs. Nurses in general better wake up to the strangle hold these foreign nurses are putting on nursing in this country. I don't really care that they pass a test to work here, stay in your own country where you are needed. There IS NO NEED TO IMPORT NURSES from any country.
    Wow. OK. But even the pay scales aren't what they should be. A person with less than a year experience shouldn't get paid the same as someone with 5, 10, 20 or 36 years. And, of course you wouldn't have student loans. I would hope after 36 years they would be paid off....no need to brag, you know! Why would a BSN not pay off, except for the fact that if you can't find a job, well, that isn't even paying a monthly payment, now, is it? I think, that instead of complaining about ADN's not being professional nurses, I will complain about LPN's not being professional nurses, because, after all, my LPN is "LICENSED practical NURSE." I took the NCLEX like everyone else, and in a few months I'll be taking the RN NCLEX because I felt like I NEEDED that BSN....and I have a nice life, thanks! I feel that furthering my education will make it that much more enjoyable. And better yet, I think ALL NURSES should complain about the lousy pay, lousy working conditions, lack of supplies, abuse by patients, and lousy management that we have to deal with. We all need to band together and support each other no matter if our degree is LPN, ADN, BSN, etc. No wonder we have so many leaving within the first year!
  11. Visit  nursethedia} profile page
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    OK, I just graduated last sept as an LPN. passed the NCLEX. I am struggling with all the job adds that need 1 year experience, how do I get my foot in the door, if I don't have experience. I am very frustrating right now, I paid top just to get my LPN diploma.
    Any advise???
  12. Visit  bahamagirlrn} profile page
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    Shodobe,It seems as if you are prejudiced against foreign nurses. I am sure if you were to trace your heritage you may find that you are not "100% American". How do you know that all foreign nurses are inadequate ? Is this based on your own biased assumptions? If you want to be honest with yourself , considering the time you spent as a nurse, I'm sure you ran into a few inadequate fellow American nurses. Also, it is not up to you to tell anyone to stay in their own country. America is a continent for anyone to come to as long as it done the legal way. You sound very bitter.
  13. Visit  eCCU} profile page
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    Quote from shodobe
    It seems to me there are a lot of people out there that are upst that they spent tons of money for a higher education only to find out that most if not all employeers want experience over a over educated nurse. For the person who thinks they should make more than me just because they decided they "needed" a BSN, well get a life! All hospitals, at least the decent ones, have a pay scale structure based on years of experience and not necessarily a education level. Yes, there are those that might get a bit more because of their higher level of education but not much. In any industry out there there will always be a pay structure based on your experience, period. Plumbers, teachers, firemen, etc all start out at the bottom and work their way up through years of just working. Just for your info I have 36 years of experince and the only ones who should make as much as I are the ones who have 30+ doing the same job. I am at the top of the pay scale at 53.84/hr. Most of you are just bitter and upset at the fact you will have many years of student loans whereas I have Nada! Get a grip, work hard and the rewards will pay off.
    Also to the guy above complaining about the ongoing "debate". There is no debate only the constant, ongoing whinning by a number of people still upset that their BSN isn't paying off now. Instead of complaining about ADNs not being "real" professional nurses maybe you should direct your anger at all the so-called "nursing schools" outside of this country churnning out inadequate nurses to take jobs from native trained RNs. Nurses in general better wake up to the strangle hold these foreign nurses are putting on nursing in this country. I don't really care that they pass a test to work here, stay in your own country where you are needed. There IS NO NEED TO IMPORT NURSES from any country.
    Ugh...this is the kind of mentality that has made Nursing not to be a respected field! Forgive the newbies for trying to make this field recognizable by having a standard level for entry into practice. Perhaps we should cut physicians education to 4yrs only! I know a lot of nurses who got full academic scholarships in Nursing school school and as far as foreign nurses are concerned perhaps a cultural sensitive class is in order, if this is how you feel about your colleagues.
    I enjoy all cultures i meet at work from different parts of the world. Some have even traveled with for international missions and have learned a great deal. Not to mention the awesome parties we have at work with great tasting cuisine :-)
  14. Visit  murse636} profile page
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    new grad working 36 hours a week, gross 51480$, with overtime i made close to 60k...this year now working fulltime 36hrs a week, plus an additional 12 hour(48hr total) shift as a registry nurse at other ED's ill be on track to make 91,000 gross...there is money to made out there people just gotta go find it...good luck to all, we deserve 100$ an hour lol


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