Comparing a nurses' salary - page 5

The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports employment among Registered Nurses will grow faster than the average for all occupations through 2018. They also report that large metropolitan cities such as... Read More

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    Quote from Surgery182
    @RCBR

    Why would you go to a larger university and pay tens of thousands of dollars to get the same degree that you could have gotten much cheaper at a community college? You can't necessarily argue that you got a better education because the content of nursing school is arguably the same. The NCLEX is a pretty standardized test that everyone must pass. So really the only one to blame about having tens of thousands of dollars in student loan debt is yourself. And should you be paid more for having a BSN? I would say no. Someone already mentioned that experience typically trumps classroom education. Go to any nursing manager and ask who their best/hardest working nurses are and I bet the answer will be a mix of BSN and ADN nurses (along with diploma grads). Some ADN nurses may not be able to write an excellent paper on the microbial skin count near an incision on postop day two, but they will run circles around a BSN nurse who got an 'A' on said paper.
    Actually, no. The managers will usually tell you it was the LPN who were some of their hardest working nurses. Do you know how much work that BSN put into that paper? Do you know WHY they had to write that paper?! Getting a BSN isn't a walk in the park. Getting the ADN is easier. ADN's I talk to can't answer BSN level nursing questions, so, no, the ADN can't run circles around the BSN without the knowledge.
  2. Visit  kabooski profile page
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    By what I've heard, new grads start out pretty close to those that have worked for 5,10,15,20+ years

    New grads get paid like $21-22hr here (BSN) and only $3-$5 (give or take) an hour more for those with years of experience is sad.

    I made 47K driving a Bobcat with only three years experience; others with 5+ made 70K+ driving heavier equipment... (it was all good till I got laid off)
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    Quote from decembergrad2011
    They are not trying to push BSN's away from the bedside. If anything, the hospitals concerned with magnet status are attempting to bring in more and more BSNs to the floor, hence the lack of jobs out there for ADN graduates. When I was hired in, the talk was all about those with ADNs going back to school - they are actually mandated to do so at my institution - and how there was research about improved patient outcomes with higher percentages of BSN-prepared nurses on the floor. I think you are more likely to see the ADN's scope decreased than the BSNs being pushed away from the bedside. It honestly is naive to think that there are enough positions out there for BSNs to only be working in management and research.

    I don't think I'm better than anyone for having my BSN, and I listen to my ADN co-workers with more experience when I have a question. But I also grow tired of people who haven't gone through a BSN program thinking that it was superfluous. I'd rather have a professional that was "overqualified" than "bare minimum" taking care of me if you want to compare it that way. I do not compare the two because I see them on a continuum. I prefer to think of it as teaching degrees. Many places will hire you (maybe not so much anymore) with a bachelor's education degree, especially for substitute teaching. However, there is an expectation in my state that you go back and get your Master's degree after a certain period of time. Much like nurses, teachers are expected to continuously evolve and grow and learn new techniques and ideas. I feel like going from ADN to BSN, etc, is actually a great way to grow as a nurse rather than stagnating. Academics can expose you to things that the workplace cannot, and a big part of that is a little bit of idealism and theory which deserves a place in our agenda if we want to change things for the better in our work communities.

    Just my opinion.
    I think your opinion hits the mark, straight on. It's the same thing here where I live. ADN's are expected to go on and get their BSN. And, research does prove better patient outcomes to higher-educated staff. Here in CO, you can't teach in a classroom if you have a BSN, you have to have a MSN. You can, however, as a BSN, teach clinical courses, as long as you have 2+ years of experience in the clinical area you want to teach, but, it is expected that you get your MSN if you want to continue to teach. BSN's are, and still will be at the bedside for a long time.
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    Quote from kabooski
    By what I've heard, new grads start out pretty close to those that have worked for 5,10,15,20+ years

    New grads get paid like $21-22hr here (BSN) and only $3-$5 (give or take) an hour more for those with years of experience is sad.

    I made 47K driving a Bobcat with only three years experience; others with 5+ made 70K+ driving heavier equipment... (it was all good till I got laid off)
    Holy cow! What state do you live in? Right now, doing PDN and getting the reimbursement pay from Medicare, according to the research I have done, my pay should go up $13 an hour more when I finish my BSN if I was to go to a hospital. With my salary now, I will gladly take the new pay rate of a new RN/BSN different or not!
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    I'm surprised how little RN's are getting paid. As a medical assistant (9months of schooling) I left and I was making $24 per hour!I became an LVN started off at 29.50 per he and then left making $34 per hr!I started RN job at $45 per hr and that's is kind of low cause the hospital that I worked at starts nurses off at $52 per hr. I live in sacramento California!
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    Quote from Teal72
    I'm surprised how little RN's are getting paid. As a medical assistant (9months of schooling) I left and I was making $24 per hour!I became an LVN started off at 29.50 per he and then left making $34 per hr!I started RN job at $45 per hr and that's is kind of low cause the hospital that I worked at starts nurses off at $52 per hr. I live in sacramento California!
    eh.....not calling you an outright liar, but come on....really?...I mean, seriously?....
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  7. Visit  Teal72 profile page
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    Yes seriously...I have no reason to lie..i don't know if you can access it but you can look up the KAiser permanente contracts online and see. Or I'd anyone else in the Sacramento Region please feel free to add.. Especially if you work at KAiser!
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    Quote from Teal72
    Yes seriously...I have no reason to lie..i don't know if you can access it but you can look up the KAiser permanente contracts online and see. Or I'd anyone else in the Sacramento Region please feel free to add.. Especially if you work at KAiser!
    well then, that is simply awesome my friend!....looks like I need to trade my Rocky Mountain home for the NoCal scene....happy for you :-)
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    Quote from Teal72
    I'm surprised how little RN's are getting paid. As a medical assistant (9months of schooling) I left and I was making $24 per hour!I became an LVN started off at 29.50 per he and then left making $34 per hr!I started RN job at $45 per hr and that's is kind of low cause the hospital that I worked at starts nurses off at $52 per hr. I live in sacramento California!
    I graduated from CC in the bay area in 2005. My starting salary back then as a new grad LVN would have been $34/hr in LTC. There's no way a RN in Sac makes $52/hr. The bay area, yes, but not Sac....although maybe as a travel nurse. that's more realistic.
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    Quote from Wild Irish LPN
    well then, that is simply awesome my friend!....looks like I need to trade my Rocky Mountain home for the NoCal scene....happy for you :-)
    Yeah but then you'd have earthquakes. And the ocean is freezing cold!
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    Quote from lvn2bsoon
    Yeah but then you'd have earthquakes. And the ocean is freezing cold!
    true, but then again we have feet of snow and bitter cold come December thru February....I could handle wine country and a chilly breeze....no problem lol....
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    Quote from Wild Irish LPN
    true, but then again we have feet of snow and bitter cold come December thru February....I could handle wine country and a chilly breeze....no problem lol....
    LOLOL I KNOW!! I thought of that a lot! I've never been late b/c of the snow, thank goodness! I spent a birthday in Napa at a B&B. Ooohhh, if only I could retire and own a vineyard! Darn earthquakes. And cost of living.
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    Quote from lvn2bsoon
    LOLOL I KNOW!! I thought of that a lot! I've never been late b/c of the snow, thank goodness! I spent a birthday in Napa at a B&B. Ooohhh, if only I could retire and own a vineyard! Darn earthquakes. And cost of living.
    never missed a shift due to snow yet...but I have the notion we are in for epic snow this season, we have had it too good the last few years...the epic event will surely happen when I will be working, and then there is no way to get home...ride out the storm and make monster OT....it could really happen....
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