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- Sep 14, '08 by wubbzyWTG on getting a sponsor!!!! What helps me with my sponsor is when we get together and dive into the steps. We take each paragraph and she has me tell her what each one means to me and how I can relate them to my personal experiences. She also tells me how they affect her and what they mean to her. It has been an eye opener for me.
- Sep 14, '08 by michigooseBSNI agree with the statement "what others think of me is none of my business?" That helps me alot. I don't worry about what people who don't understand addiction and who certainly don't understand recovery think. I'll discuss the disease of addiction and what is involved in recovery with people like us who know. After over 16 years of sobriety my focus is on my recovery and helping others who want help, not trying to educate the general public, be they medical professionals or not. That may sound cynical but it keeps me sane and serene.
- Sep 14, '08 by bossynurse101Quote from michigooseBSNYour words are helping me as we speak. Like an idiot, I dove in head first again to another "earth nurses' (my new term, like it?) thread ("detox etc, dont remember the exact name - on the GND forum again. I guess my retorts sounded snide, but I really didnt mean them to be. I am just still in shock over what nurses REALLY think of us. And it seems like so many of them. . . . What I dont understand tho, is how they continue to justify thier ugly and hateful feelings on the premise that they are just venting. We knew that we wernt going to be dealing with nice, happy people for the most part when we got into this profession. But how can you care for pts with that kind of animosity in your heart? Are they saying that these people dont deserve compassion, just throw them in the garbarge? Nurses eat their yourng AND thier pts I suppose. I was moved to tears at one point, and after that I vowed to myself not to go to that forum again. Its not so much a need for approval, just trying to find some common ground I guess. I am even more grateful for this forum now.I agree with the statement "what others think of me is none of my business?" That helps me alot. I don't worry about what people who don't understand addiction and who certainly don't understand recovery think. I'll discuss the disease of addiction and what is involved in recovery with people like us who know. After over 16 years of sobriety my focus is on my recovery and helping others who want help, not trying to educate the general public, be they medical professionals or not. That may sound cynical but it keeps me sane and serene.
- Sep 18, '08 by FireStarterRNI see I've been talked about on this thread. I was talking about abusive behaviour by people withdrawing from alcohol on that thread. Yes, it's exhausting and disillusioning to take care of a lot of these patients. Not to start an argument, but I notice my username mentioned.
Yes, I'm glad I quit beer and wine, it's been a real positive in my life. Mind altering substances are very easily habit forming/ addictive.
- Sep 18, '08 by mzlocoGO TO MEETINGS. Get a sponsor and work the steps. They call it AA for a reason. Anonymous. I can only tell you from my experience strength and hope.... My experience is if you tell another RN you have the disease of addiction and that RN feels like ( or in some cases may be mandated)disclosing that information to the board, your opening up a can of worms you may not want to deal with so early in recovery if at all. You have not harmed others or have practiced drunk etc... My advice is KEEP IT BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR PROGRAM.
Talk to your sponsor and remember to talk to your higher power.
- Sep 18, '08 by bossynurse101Quote from jlsRNI see I've been talked about on this thread. I was talking about abusive behavior by people withdrawing from alcohol on that thread.
jls, first off, - speaking only for myself, if I have offended you in any way - I apologize, I in no way meant to be hurtful. It was kind of a knee-jerk reaction to the sensitivity I felt when you referred to "those" people. You see, many of "us" used to be "those" people OR have YET to be "those" people. When I first skimmed the waters of my addiction some 20 years ago, I NEVER, ever, ever, wd have imagined that I wd become the low bottom, smelly, mess that I was. I do remember the nasty comments and the looks of disgust that I got when I ended up in the ER. God how I hated myself as much as they did. But trust me, I did not know what else to do. I had no family, no sober friends, no friends, period. When I finally ended up in jail, it was a God send that I am still thankful for today. I know without a doubt that I wd have ended up dead otherwise. I have been thinking about your post alot this past week or so and have come to the conclusion that maybe things are just as they shd be. After all, can you imagine how much more overrun the ER wd be if the nurses were sweet and kind? I mean, think about it "Hi darlin', what wd you like first, a sandwhich? A bath? How bout a beer" then the look of amazement that wd ensue. Its comical when you think about it! But I am grateful that I found this forum, only another addict/alcoholic can truly understand the pain, personal prison, and hopelessness that one feels. I dont wish you any ill will, you are on your own journey and I wish you many blessings on it. But if you cd, when you come across your next drunk, if you cd remember me and tell him (if he is coherent) "there is someone out there who understands what you're going thru" and give him the number to the local AA. Peace.
- Sep 18, '08 by FireStarterRNI don't work in an ER, plus I'm always kind to my patients. Bedside manner is kind of my special gift, no matter how exasperating a patient might be.
I do think that any of us who have abused substances need to take personal responsiblity for what we've done under the influence.
I'm thankful that I never reached the point of a fullblown addiction with alcohol, but I do have an addictive personality, so I've concluded that natural highs are the only way to go. I was a bad pothead when I was in highschool, but then gave that up. I didn't develop a taste for alcohol until I was 30. I also enjoyed LSD back then, but realized that I couldn't really continue with that forever.
Anyways, instead of wine in the evenings I've developed a new ritual of drinking chamomile tea. I think in forming better habits that it's important to replace an old, bad habit with a healthy one. That's really helped me, plus I've gotten my family in on the act. I gave up alcohol last winter, and I feel better than I have in a long time!
- Sep 19, '08 by mzlocoI am an ER Nurse( can not wait to get back there) and let me tell you I have a whole new outlook on " those" people now. before I found recovery we ( I) was one of thos ED nurses who laughed, joked and took bets on ETOH levels. I never saw my self as an addict until it spun out of control. I went back to the ED for a short time after I got sober and instead of joking about them...when they sobered up I would direct them to where they needed to be...IN RECOVERY if they wanted it....
Thats the problem in our ED's today we sober them up and send them back out to the streets instead of sending them straight to detox and recovery.
- Sep 29, '08 by patience_careWelcome This is a great site for receiving encouragement.
- Sep 30, '08 by southernbeegirlI went to the GND forum and read that thread.
I have to be as honest with yall as I am with myself. When I was in active addiction, I was a pain in the rear to treat! I was a huge victim/martyr so nothing was "my fault" and i thought the world "owed me".
I can empathize with nurses needing to vent over caring for addicts. it doesnt mean they are disrespecting us in recovery, IMO. I work in LTC rehab and love my patients but vent about them often. doesnt mean i care any less...just means i need a safe place to vent with people that can empathize and not think im a horrible person for venting.
thats the way i took that thread...that it was just venting. even i have to admit caring for addicts is frustrating at times. "normal" people cant understand our thinking because they arent addicts. i know even now...whether i'm at work, at a meeting or talking with a sponsee...i get so frustrated some times. i 'know' what they need to do to get sober but they wont listen, lol. i'm sure 'normal' people feel the same at times.
just my take on it.
and to the OP...how are you doing? congrats on your sobriety!