Nurses who smoke Marijuana? - page 8

by NenaRK 72,368 Views | 110 Comments

Hello all, I am currently taking my prerequisites for Nursing. I know two nurses, one is a friend of my mothers and she is a Nurse Practitioner and my boyfriend's mother is a charge nurse in the ICU. Both of them smoke... Read More


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    One of the big problems about legalizing MJ is that unlike alcohol (whose effects at certain BAC levels are pretty well known), there is no level of MJ/THC that can be easily correlated with some level of impairment. On top of that, it is known that MJ contains more THC now than it did back in the '60's, and even then the dose of THC you get each time you use MJ isn't very predictable, nor is the clearance rate.

    Alcohol is a factor in many traffic deaths. Alcohol is pretty easy to detect. THC isn't, and there's no field expedient method by which your blood level of THC can be checked and since there's no known dose that correlates well with likely impairment (like with alcohol), it's probably quite difficult to substantiate a traffic fatality being directly caused by MJ impairment.

    So, just because there are relatively few recorded traffic fatalities as compared to alcohol-related fatalities, don't assume that the number of MJ-related traffic fatalities is 0.

    Now as to the legalization problem... alcohol is legal, and has been for quite a few decades. Showing up even a little buzzed at work is just absolutely going to do wonders for your career as a nurse. If there was some easy test and some presumptive level that indicated impairment right then, it probably would be "easier" to legalize MJ, but just because the stuff would then be legal to use, doesn't mean that it would be a good idea to show up to work with it in your system... just in exactly the same way that alcohol is treated.

    My comments above are not to be construed in any manner whatsoever as to whether or not I think MJ should be legalized. It's simply to point out the problems associated with use of a mind-altering recreational drug (of which both MJ and EtOH are).
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    Enlightened view, you have. But as far as marijuana being hard to detect? A simple blood test, for one (whether pulled over, or ordered to drop a sample on the job, etc.). For another- there are devices being made that, attached to a flashlight or clipboard (like the new ambient alcohol detectors), can detect minute particles of sustances in your exhaled breath. So, be in fear of a roadblock, being pulled over for a cracked windshield, or etc. if you smoke that stuff. The problem is that THC can be detected for months, it's just not known- and the tests keep getting more creative. The risk to a nursing license just simply cannot be exaggerated.
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    Quote from SuzieVN
    Enlightened view, you have. But as far as marijuana being hard to detect? A simple blood test, for one (whether pulled over, or ordered to drop a sample on the job, etc.). For another- there are devices being made that, attached to a flashlight or clipboard (like the new ambient alcohol detectors), can detect minute particles of sustances in your exhaled breath. So, be in fear of a roadblock, being pulled over for a cracked windshield, or etc. if you smoke that stuff. The problem is that THC can be detected for months, it's just not known- and the tests keep getting more creative. The risk to a nursing license just simply cannot be exaggerated.
    Enlightened view? That I don't know... Educated view, I suspect that I do. Like I said above, blood tests, breath tests, whatever... yes, it's very possible to detect THC in the body for a VERY long time after exposure. The problem is that there isn't any test that I know of that says that a person is presumptively under the influence of THC, not like alcohol. So the only thing that anyone could use for DUI (or working under the influence) is objective signs that may show during an FST. Otherwise, they simply check for the presence of THC and can only presume that if the drug is detected, the person has taken the drug at some point in the past. Clearing THC from the body takes a long time, for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that it's fat soluble, not water soluble. And that's a problem with all fat soluble drugs that I know of...

    As to the tests getting more and more creative, it's not so much that, it's that the tests become both more sensitive and cheaper. What was previously an undetectable level is now easily detectable. If you don't do the stuff... you'll never have to worry about those random tests... ever.
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    Yes, you may be deemed not impaired via FST, etc. even if your blood shows THC, or other stuff- but you will be arrested, anyway- for being in possession of a controlled substance. Nursing wise, better to have an alcohol DUI on your record- but why split hairs when you're life will be ruined anyway? Best not to temp fate, yes.
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    Quote from nisteber
    No your statement is wrong. THC can still be found a person's blood but they are no longer impaired. If you smoke friday you can easily go to work monday un-impaired. Its very similar to drinking alcohol. No idea what you are trying to say about DUI being the number one arrests. 80,000 people die a year from alcohol related crashes. 0 die from marijuana related anything. Thats the facts. It's on the CDCs website. Somebody please end this thread so I stop responding. Thank you.


    Im sure that at least one person has died from marijuana related anything.

    Google search, killed by high driver

    Charge: Driver, high on pot, killed woman in Interbay wreck - seattlepi.com

    http://www.seattlepi.com/local/artic...an-4348939.php

    http://www.katu.com/news/local/Polic...183885991.html

    "Driver states he is not impaired"
    I wonder how many Drunk drivers openly admit they're impaired
    Just saying.

    Im sure there have been people killed by just about everything. Vending machines kill people.

    We are the same breed that needs ''This cup may be hot" On coffee cups.
    Last edit by blackvans1234 on Mar 24, '13
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    Quote from blackvans1234

    Im sure that at least one person has died from marijuana related anything.

    Google search, killed by high driver

    Charge: Driver, high on pot, killed woman in Interbay wreck - seattlepi.com

    http://www.seattlepi.com/local/artic...an-4348939.php

    http://www.katu.com/news/local/Polic...183885991.html

    "Driver states he is not impaired"
    I wonder how many Drunk drivers openly admit they're impaired
    Just saying.

    Im sure there have been people killed by just about everything. Vending machines kill people.

    We are the same breed that needs ''This cup may be hot" On coffee cups.
    Best reply in this entire thread! Thanks for the laugh!!
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    This reminds me of one of my favorite stories from my previous engineering career. The Manufacturing Manager was hiring for assembly positions and told applicants, "We have a zero-tolerance drug policy."

    One applicant asked, "Even pot??"
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    Hey I just have a question for you guys. Has anyone here ever been arrested for marijuana posession while a nurse and what happened to you from the BON? I would really appreciate some helpful answers.
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    What will happen to a nurse arrested for marijuana? The same thing that will happen for any drug offense, DUI, or other crime. Up to and/ or including your license being revoked, in the end. If your license isn't revoked, your chance of getting a nursing job will be forever greatly diminished. At the outset though- if you have been arrested, be sure to report yourself to the BON ASAP- if you don't self-report according to the timeline they give you, you are already that much worse off...
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    Quote from Alisonisayoshi
    I just want to mention there are side effects and consequences to pot. Sorry to burst a smokers bubble, but there are. Currently pot is decriminalized. In some states it's even "legal" for medical use (where I live the Feds are suing our county to put an end to reckless medical use and growth but its currently legal).
    Here's my b@$ch about pot: hey did you know your casual use is a blight on MY community? Yup it is. My cute, picturesque, small town is now overrun by MS13. We have murders, assaults, and skyrocketing crime rates all relating to pot. Pot is big business. So that joint you are smoking, that one joint? Yeah just know somebody might have been murdered for that. Seems crazy just for pot, but this cash crop is poisoning the land and water, it's inciting violence, and it's doing it in SOMEONE'S back yard.
    Please don't act like its some victimless crime to smoke. It's not.

    Well, you realize that is one of the biggest arguments FOR decriminalizing and/or legalizing right? If something is legal, you don't need to resort to criminals and gangs to get it for you. Jus' sayin'.
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