Drug addicted nurses - page 14

I am a nursing student and in one of my classes we have recently talked about nurses and substance abuse. I think that it is hard for me to wrap my brain around the issue. My questions are: 1.... Read More

  1. by   schwalmys8862
    Hi. I am an RN and facing the NMP. I sign contracts and get my license back after only about 5 months of losing it. I will get it back feb 21st. I have never diverted though, not even an aspirin, but understand how easy it would be and how quickly the fear would fade after doing it once. Why? Because I am an addict and we understand each other when it comes to addiction. I just thank God I never let myself go to that temptation, but it was easy for me because I am not a pill person. I like them but its not my drug of choice. There was a period of time before I was a nurse that I had ten years clean and sober. I became a nurse during that period, then my son became addicted and i lost it. It took a couple dui"s and a possession of thc with the nursing board on my ass before I would get it. I am clean and sober today and am looking forward to going back to work after struggling hard financially. Sometimes that is what we need to GET IT! I can say I feel so good today. I still want to get high somedays but nothing in the world replaces the good feeling of being clean and sober and WANTING to be C&S. You fellow addicts know what I am talking about. This is a disease and dont let anyone tell you otherwise. Those who try to say you dont deserve your license back do not understand because they havent been in our shoes or dealt with addiction. If any of you would like to share your experience with the NMP I would love to hear it. Take care and do whatever it takes to stay C&S. Willing to share recovery ANYTIME! (privately)
  2. by   schwalmys8862
    Quote from grannynurse FNP student
    A Million Little Pieces was presented as a non-fiction book. I have not read it and have no desire to, especially after the information that has been revealed about it's author. And after watching him on Larry King.

    Nurses who are addicted to narcotics are not always addicted to medications containing narcotics. This being said, I believe that any nurse who has sought treatment and has successfully completed an impairment program, should not be prevented from returning to a position that does not bar her from access to narcotics. Do we automatically bar alcoholics from establishments that serve alcohol? The answer to that is no. Why should we automatically bar a nurse?

    Grannynurse
    right on granny!
  3. by   schwalmys8862
    Quote from gianna2111
    I understand what you are saying and I agree it is a family issue, however to go after a nurse as so far as to cross reference a name which is what someone sent me a thread that they did just that. They cross referenced her name, then reported her to the board. I simply dont agree. I live this life myself and I am staying clean. She has to want to do this on her own. I think to report someone by tracking them down puts a downer on this board because you cant share freely. They say in NA and AA that what is said here stays here. I see your point if she has children but to go after her paycheck. That will do nothing but make her use even more. There are other means such as warning her first to get the help she needs or you will go to the board. To just up and go is viscious attack on her and her family due to lack of paycheck on top of everything else. She has to hit rock bottom on her own to finally want and get the help. Obviously if I see a nurse at work using I would report to the charge RN or Director but this board is confidential. It should stay here only. What can I say. Nurses eat there young. Its a fact. Whoever did report her must feel proud now.
    I dont agree at all. There is interventions, tell her to check in to rehab etc before you go to board. This is why I dont share anything about myself on this board any further. It is taken and ran with. Sad.
    I only share what I don't have to hide. Everyone has things that should be saved for meetings. Smart gianna!
  4. by   schwalmys8862
    Quote from steelcityrn
    I personally have a zero tolorence for a nurse who has stolen medication and or uses drugs and is able to keep a nursing license.
    Addiction is a disease. Do you have zero tolerance for all your sick patients?
    Last edit by schwalmys8862 on Feb 11, '06
  5. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from schwalmys8862
    Addiction is a disease. Do you have zero tolerance for all your sick patients?
    i would give my pts. what they need to get them through their withdrawal, if they showed an interest. Yes addiction is a disease but you need to own it; go through all the steps in getting clean, STAY clean and earn trust. afterall, these nurses are taking from OUR pts. now who are we supposed to be advocating for?

    leslie
  6. by   krisssy
    Quote from schwalmys8862
    Hi. I am an RN and facing the NMP. I sign contracts and get my license back after only about 5 months of losing it. I will get it back feb 21st. I have never diverted though, not even an aspirin, but understand how easy it would be and how quickly the fear would fade after doing it once. Why? Because I am an addict and we understand each other when it comes to addiction. I just thank God I never let myself go to that temptation, but it was easy for me because I am not a pill person. I like them but its not my drug of choice. There was a period of time before I was a nurse that I had ten years clean and sober. I became a nurse during that period, then my son became addicted and i lost it. It took a couple dui"s and a possession of thc with the nursing board on my ass before I would get it. I am clean and sober today and am looking forward to going back to work after struggling hard financially. Sometimes that is what we need to GET IT! I can say I feel so good today. I still want to get high somedays but nothing in the world replaces the good feeling of being clean and sober and WANTING to be C&S. You fellow addicts know what I am talking about. This is a disease and dont let anyone tell you otherwise. Those who try to say you dont deserve your license back do not understand because they havent been in our shoes or dealt with addiction. If any of you would like to share your experience with the NMP I would love to hear it. Take care and do whatever it takes to stay C&S. Willing to share recovery ANYTIME! (privately)
    What is the NMP?
    Krisssy
  7. by   nurse_clown
    Quote from krisssy
    You and I sound exactly alike. Everything you feel and like, I do too. I had surgery twice last year for my abdomen. I got addicted to Percoset and then Oxycodone. I just paid $8000.00 at go to a detox for 4 days. Even with that, I came home VERY SICK. Don't ask for or take percoset or Oxycodone if it affects you that way. Getting off is pure hell and so is getting addicted. PM me anytime or ask me on here. I will be happt to share my story with anyone who needs to hear it.

    A sober and happy nurse Krisssy
    [FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Well, as it turned out, I went to work and bent over to fill my water jug at the water cooler. I heard and felt a crack. When I stood up straight, I felt NO PAIN!!!! It was weird but a tremendous relief. I didn't have to take anything and here I was debating whether or not to take something. As much as Percocet "attracts" me, I don't like it. I just don't feel right when I take it. But man! I can sure concentrate and do a lot of work when I take it.

    I would love to hear your story.
  8. by   schwalmys8862
    [quote=krisssy]What is the NMP?
    Krisssy[/uote]


    Nurse Monitoring Program
  9. by   schwalmys8862
    Quote from earle58
    i would give my pts. what they need to get them through their withdrawal, if they showed an interest. Yes addiction is a disease but you need to own it; go through all the steps in getting clean, STAY clean and earn trust. afterall, these nurses are taking from OUR pts. now who are we supposed to be advocating for?

    leslie
    So you are saying you have zero tolerance for what they do not their disease. I think they should get a chance to prove themselves after they have owned it and be able to keep their license. If they keep screwing up time after time then I can see taking it for good.
    Last edit by schwalmys8862 on Feb 12, '06
  10. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from schwalmys8862
    So you are saying you have zero tolerance for what they do not their disease. I think they should get a chance to prove themselves after they have owned it and be able to keep their license. If they keep screwing up time after time then I can see taking it for good.
    That's EXACTLY why the peer programs were created. I don't think Leslie disagreed with that.

    She didn't make the 'zero tolerance' comment, but just amplified to say that, if I understood her correctly, you have to make the most of your second chances. That ultimately, pt safety is the primary issue.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  11. by   krisssy
    Hi Everyone,

    As I have already posted, I just got detoxed from Oxycodone. It was 4 days inpatient with no withdrawal. But now that I am home, I am feeling withdrawal which is being controlled with Subutex. I am going to an outpatient rehab with a family program -4 days a week and to an addictionologist. I do not intend to work until this is way past me. Meanwhile I am going to graduate school, and I don't have to do any clinicals for over a year. Meanwhile, I want to get healthy. I am very lucky that the post surgical pain that caused me to take Oxycodone is finally, after a year, gone. I am also lucky to have a new wonderful husband, three healthy kids, and to be going to a great graduate school to get my MHPNP MS. I just love school, and I am doing great. The professor has already posted two of my essays as being excellent. I know about the disease of addiction, and relapsing would ruin my life for good if it ever happened. I was wondering if anyone could share any online AA groups that you know of. I am interested in special groups for nurses and for general groups-maybe women's groups. Anyone have any information on this?

    Krisssy
  12. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from krisssy
    Hi Everyone,

    As I have already posted, I just got detoxed from Oxycodone. It was 4 days inpatient with no withdrawal. But now that I am home, I am feeling withdrawal which is being controlled with Subutex. I am going to an outpatient rehab with a family program -4 days a week and to an addictionologist. I do not intend to work until this is way past me. Meanwhile I am going to graduate school, and I don't have to do any clinicals for over a year. Meanwhile, I want to get healthy. I am very lucky that the post surgical pain that caused me to take Oxycodone is finally, after a year, gone. I am also lucky to have a new wonderful husband, three healthy kids, and to be going to a great graduate school to get my MHPNP MS. I just love school, and I am doing great. The professor has already posted two of my essays as being excellent. I know about the disease of addiction, and relapsing would ruin my life for good if it ever happened. I was wondering if anyone could share any online AA groups that you know of. I am interested in special groups for nurses and for general groups-maybe women's groups. Anyone have any information on this?

    Krisssy
    This was posted recently in another thread:
    http://www.voy.com/24203/

    Hope it helps.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  13. by   nurse_clown
    Quote from krisssy
    Hi Everyone,

    As I have already posted, I just got detoxed from Oxycodone. It was 4 days inpatient with no withdrawal. But now that I am home, I am feeling withdrawal which is being controlled with Subutex. I am going to an outpatient rehab with a family program -4 days a week and to an addictionologist. I do not intend to work until this is way past me. Meanwhile I am going to graduate school, and I don't have to do any clinicals for over a year. Meanwhile, I want to get healthy. I am very lucky that the post surgical pain that caused me to take Oxycodone is finally, after a year, gone. I am also lucky to have a new wonderful husband, three healthy kids, and to be going to a great graduate school to get my MHPNP MS. I just love school, and I am doing great. The professor has already posted two of my essays as being excellent. I know about the disease of addiction, and relapsing would ruin my life for good if it ever happened. I was wondering if anyone could share any online AA groups that you know of. I am interested in special groups for nurses and for general groups-maybe women's groups. Anyone have any information on this?

    Krisssy
    [FONT="Comic Sans MS"]wow! good for you krissy. i wondered about taking a break from nursing and going back to school to continue my nursing education. or i might just go into dog training. i had a rough night at work last night. no big deal, i was organized and the patients were pretty good (they slept all night) but i was just feeling bummed...

    anyway krissy, i'm very glad for you. it's nice that your hubby and family is supportive. mine is too but it's so tireing to explain everything. it's just easier to dive into work and keep my mind only on that. i kept feeling my back ache but i put it aside and forgot all about that. when i left work to go to my car, i felt the pain. anyway....

    yer doing a great job krissy....

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