Anyone ever get their license back after revocation? - page 7
OK, hope I'm doing this right. Now that I have some clean time, I am considering getting my nursing license back. I have no idea how to go about this. I "failed" IPN (FL) in 2002, :dance:-that was... Read More
Nov 7, '09Praying might help a little.. but hitting the pavement will help the most. Hit the ground running. Keep going and going and going on interviews. Go even to the interviews where you know you won't get hired.
Look at all the hoops you have jumped through! You can't give up now,, heck, this is the easy part. Get pretty everyday and get out there... or else, what is it all for??
Nov 8, '09Quote from gr8fulnrsMake yourself marketable, I do not know which state you are in, but get RUGs certified for LTC nursing homes, and MDS profecient, MDS and RUGs reports are the specialized reports that have to be transmitted to CMS Medicare and Medicaid..... for nursing homes to get paid It is usually a M-f job, and MDS/Rugs nurses get paid a higher wage than other LVNs in a nursing home, cause you be the money nurse... Hey it is a way to work off the stipulations, and 3 yr. probation... I only have 5 more months to go........ you can find out abut the above at CMS or DADs websites....... look up MDS/Rugs on the "net" We get Rugs certifies in Texas at Texas Tech. SanMarcus online...... something like $35-40.00. These MDS/Rugs reports are very similar to the OASIS that home health has to submit. Good luck, you can do it. !!!yes, lately it occurs to me as well...what a long strange trip its been! i havent posted in awhile so let let me update all you beautiful nursey-poos where I'm at on my journey: my journey has come to a screaching halt as to not being able to secure employment as an LPN. history: voluntarily surrendered license in 2003, finally quit using in 2005, got recovery, applied for re-instatement 4 years later in 2009, did the psych eval, LPN refresher course, Got myself off the OIG list, got a fingerprint clearance card, have on - going random U/A's, go to 12 step meetings, got license back BUT...with restrictions and a 3 year probation - RN supervision, 6 month narcotic distribution restriction (to commence upon hiring) and a.m. hrs. of work only. so...where I'm at now is having a hard time getting hired as a med nurse who can't pass meds. I've tried a doctor's offices, treatment centers, LTC homes, detention centers, adult day cares...if anyone has a brainiac idea (other than hitting my knees on a daily basis and praying my little heart out) please speak up! I have been batteling depression as a result of this wall I'm up against, trying to remain optimistic but its hard, especially with the economy and all...and especially when I'm in competition with the nurse that is purer than the white driven snow who has never had to suffer from addiction. I know God is still in the miracle business so I best just get out of the way and let him do his thing. but hurry up already!!! please...
Nov 8, '09Wanted to say "right on" to you and to also comment on the 2 posts that followed in response to yours... they gave such great suggestions. Align yourself with people in the medical profession, meet and greet when ever, where ever you can .. go to a meet-up group in your area for nurses.. support groups are every where find one (other than AA NA) .. learn, grow, develop sincere relationships .. even if you have to volunteer.. it's all about trust. As you align yourself with people, they'll be able to speak to your character in general. ** someone mentioned be "marketable", that's so huge... the MDS route is a great idea ..perhaps if your an lpn or lvn get your RN, if your an RN get your BSN etc. Be MORE than they want in every way possible.
***I'll encourage everyone reading this thread to go back and read post # 45..
It speaks volumes to me, the handling or often mishandling of this entire issue. Addicts are every where in every profession ... I find it W A C K E D that we, out of all professions, treat our colleagues with the least support and the most discrimination. Consider Police Officers, Firefighters where "public safety" is also at issue ... do a little research, you'll discover much more support on the part of coworkers in both instances. What is it with the BON, the profession in general.... all these hoops, loops and oh by the ways... it's discriminatory(.)There are surely plenty of active addicts wishing they could be honest, ask for help... many who wouldn't dare, knowing the stigma. If this were really being treated as "disease" .. getting well would be the easy part... it seems in the Nursing Profession sobriety's not enough. Being followed around by an RN for 6 months while you do a med pass will do little other than prevent you from getting a job. We need an increase in Education, Communication, and Empathy .. from nursing all the way up to the nursing board... What We, as a profession, as a board should be offering people suffering from addiction should be encouragement NOT discouragement. People do move beyond addiction, a good thing right? .. yeah! Why then doesn't it F E E L that way??
Nov 19, '09I am also a victim of this new law. I'm a new grad and had to withdraw my license application in FL due to a mistake I made over 5 years ago. I have written to the FL legislature about this law and how I feel it is much too broad. I agree it should effect people guilty of Medicaid fraud but not fraud in general and drug charges. I have had a few responces saying they will discuss this bill 1986 again in March 2010. If you want to write/email your legislature as well you can find thier contact info at:
The more who write the better!! Any other advice about what to do next? I really can't move out ao FL at this stage in my life and all the travel jobs require at least 1 year experience.
Jul 1, '10I have very strong feelings about this OIG exclusion list and it's far reaching ramifications. Including nurses who have lost or surrendered their licenses due to substance abuse is DRACONIAN. First, the boards do not inform you that this is a consequence and they are dishonest about the ways to get off of it.
This list was created in 1980 as a punitive and security measure against practioners who had DELIBERATELY defrauded the Medicare or Medicaid system-i.e. felons. In the balanced budget act of 1997 they included every health care practioner who had ever lost or surrendered their license regardless of the reason. Obviously the biggest percentage of lost or surrendered licenses are directly related to substance abuse issues. Substance abuse and addiction is an illness and is recognized as such by the AMA. Just by default the inclusion of such individuals on a list (as long as they have not committed medicare or medicaid fraud) is prejudicial. Many of the people who fall into this category do not even know they are on the list. I surrendered my license in 2004 and did not find out I was on this lst until 2007 when I was denied employment at a health insurance company. As long as you are on this list you can not work for any entity who accepts medicare or medicaid in ANY capacity.
You can get off this list without getting your license back, it takes a lot of work and a good lawyer but it can be done. I hope that one day someone who "matters" will see the inclusion of sick people on this list as inherently wrong but until that day, get in recovery, decide what path you want to take and contact an attorney who has dealt with this before.
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You can get off this list without getting your license back, it takes a lot of work and a good lawyer but it can be done. I hope that one day someone who "matters" will see the inclusion of sick people on this list as inherently wrong but until that day, get in recovery, decide what path you want to take and contact an attorney who has dealt with this before.[/quote]
I agree with a lot of what you said about the OIG list and the ramifications. I found out I was on it last year about 7 years after the incident happened. I WAS NOT NOTIFIED IN ADVANCE-I found out the hard way....anyway, I was able to have my name removed from the list without legal intervention. In fact, I did it by myself. I contacted the lead attorney at the att generals office in Washington, DC. I asked what could be done. They sent me a packet with information on how to go about it.
I had several friends, business associates and former supervisors write a short letter on my behalf. Basically stating that I would never defraud the Medicare system, good moral character, etc.
THey really are more interested in fradulent practices than drug/alcohol addiction...in fact, that was not an issue at all.
I called the lead attorney weekly, she was most helpful and understanding.
THe entire process took from May 30 until August 1, about 2 months.
It felt great when it was over, and I was glad I advocated for myself. I recieved an official letter stating my name was removed and checked the next month it was published and it was.
Good luck, it can be done....I DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jul 2, '10I am also starting the process of getting my license back. And, yes, a lot of nurses got their license back!
This forum is a great source of info, from great people, and also a great support.
As I read many, many posts, I realized that an attorney is a great place to start.
So, I consulted one...
They charge 300.00 for the initial consult, and 350.00/hr. after that. They will request all your info from the boards and IPN, and they know all these power people in person, as well as the avenues to take to get your license.
They also ask for a retainer, which she did not share with me yet how much.
I have to drive up to Orlando to see them, and then I will find out more details.
I diverted from work beggining of 2000, got a contract with IPN, and I gave up after one relapse. However, I have been clean since 2001. 9 years on July 31 this year.
I too had problems finding a job for a while, but I had made a successful career teaching Medical Assistant Program which does not require a license, just a degree. In the process, I challenged the Medical Assistant exam, and I got my certification, along with EKG and Phlebotomy certifications. So, I teach these classes as well.
Also, I became a BLS, ACLS, PALS Instructor, and I've been teaching that since 2003.
I have my own bussiness doing CPR, ACLS,PALS AND OSHA compliance for medical facilities, and is going well.
My dream is to grow the business (in process) and employ only nurses in recovery, where they can make a good living and get their license back. I'm one step closer....I been having this dream for many years and with God's help, I will bring it to pass. (These are just tips on how to make a decent living, MA Instructor pays at least 20/hr, and other instructors 25/hr).
However, an attorney is still a big expense for me as well...
But is worth the sacrifice..
I'm just taking my time though, since I don't intend to work in the hospital, and I make a decent living. I want to do it right. I rushed before, and I fell flat on my face.
I wish you all the best..
Stay clean and sober, that is the most important thing!!!
Jul 2, '10I'm with SWS RN on this OIG list removal. it was relatively painless, took about two monthes, I advocated myself. I got the packet in the mail and contacted their office on the phone. They were very helpful. Got an official letter in the mail stating I was off the list. I will not deny that i was mortified when i learned I was on this list. I couldnt figure out how they (the OIG people) No.1 - found out i was an addict who had to surrender her license to get recovery and No.2 when did I ever fraudulently abuse medicare privilages? i thought...what the heck...thats a huge jump from being reprimanded by a state board of nursing to being accused of commiting a crime against medicare. The good news is once i realize i dont have to try and figure everything out and just take care of my part, things fall right into place. its a beautiful thing. recovery has done wonders for this grateful nurse!
Jul 17, '10I had mine revoked back in 1983 after getting caught diverting. Back then, there were no peer assistance programs in Texas. I was able to get it reinstated 2 years later. I had to drive to Austin and appear before the board which was one of the scariest days in my life but I had the courage to do it.
Just do it. I feel very strongly that you will get it back. Good luck and congratulations!
Jul 30, '10Quote from gr8fulnrsI have a suggestion, and I know of a "need" for LVNs and RNs get "RUG certified" for me cost $40.00 online as Texas Tech., and get proficient in the LTC MDS assessment 3.0 which is coming in Oct.2010..... not enough MDS nurses are 3.0 prof. yet........ it is a marketable job, which enables you to satisfy just about any BON stipulationsyes, lately it occurs to me as well...what a long strange trip its been! i havent posted in awhile so let let me update all you beautiful nursey-poos where I'm at on my journey: my journey has come to a screaching halt as to not being able to secure employment as an LPN. history: voluntarily surrendered license in 2003, finally quit using in 2005, got recovery, applied for re-instatement 4 years later in 2009, did the psych eval, LPN refresher course, Got myself off the OIG list, got a fingerprint clearance card, have on - going random U/A's, go to 12 step meetings, got license back BUT...with restrictions and a 3 year probation - RN supervision, 6 month narcotic distribution restriction (to commence upon hiring) and a.m. hrs. of work only. so...where I'm at now is having a hard time getting hired as a med nurse who can't pass meds. I've tried a doctor's offices, treatment centers, LTC homes, detention centers, adult day cares...if anyone has a brainiac idea (other than hitting my knees on a daily basis and praying my little heart out) please speak up! I have been batteling depression as a result of this wall I'm up against, trying to remain optimistic but its hard, especially with the economy and all...and especially when I'm in competition with the nurse that is purer than the white driven snow who has never had to suffer from addiction. I know God is still in the miracle business so I best just get out of the way and let him do his thing. but hurry up already!!! please...
and this job enhances a LTC facility re-imbursement, thus you would be "valued." Emotional it was good for me and finance it was good for the facility. HCpro.com has the 3.0 books another $40.00something I believe, so for under $100.00 you become a valued, needed, nurse, with new tools, that are required ! ps: stay sober work your program.
Jul 30, '10I checked that out and it does seem like a good idea, I do see MDS ads frequently--although here in Fl they seem to want RNs, I don't know if that is a requirement or not. I am an RN and I have thought about this a lot, however, this course seems like it is specific to Texas. Anyone know if it is good throughout the US?