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No. 40
from Jules A
Old Sep 23, 2007, 09:58 AM

Default Re: Multiple Sclerosis
June1925,
May you continue to do well on Tysabri. FWIW I haven't heard about anyone developing antibodies on it yet either.
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No. 41
from robinbird
Old Oct 10, 2007, 11:43 PM

Default Re: Multiple Sclerosis (Long)
I was diagnosed with MS Sept. 30, 2007. I was a new nurse and in orientation in a cardiac unit. It began as I was studying for my critical care pharmacology competency. The letters on the page looked washed out, as if there the printer the page was printed on was running out of ink. I went to work the next day and couldn't read the numbers on an insulin syringe. Needless to say, I told my charge nurse what was happening and she reassigned my patients. I went to my eye doctor, who couldn't find anything wrong with my eye. He suggestd I go to the ER. Of course, after just having gone through nursing school, all the worse case scenerios were going through my mind...brain tumor...cancer.. I was even more freaked out because I was already blind in my other eye from a child hood accident.

Anyway, after an MRI and and an LP I was diagnosed with MS. I felt as if my world had been turned upside down. I went through all of stages of grief, denial and anger then bargaining (it can't be true, I just finished nursing school in top 5 % of my class...I save lives... I run 12 miles a week... I eat healthy food...). Then depression, while recovering at home from optic neuritis and taking steroids, and finally and reluctantly, acceptance.

Looking back I've probably had MS for at least 10 years (I'm 39 now). I just attributed vague tingling and intermittent pain to injuries, vertigo and fatigue to being a mom of three young kids.

When I was first diagnosed my neurologist said I had a choice as to how I could handle the disease I could do nothing (as many people choose to do for financial reasons or because they can't stand to take injections) or I could fight. He explained a little about the fight (expensive injections, side effects, etc.)

For me it wasn't a question. I'll take a fight any day, this was nothing new to me. I fought to get into nursing school, I fight for my patients every day. I went on Rebif and experienced the flu-like side effects and Raynauds in my fingers. Then after three months my neurologist checked my liver enzymes and they were 10 times normal. We tried reducing the dosage and they kept climbing. I went off Rebif and began taking Copaxone. No side effects at all. I've been taking it for 8 months and I've had no exacerbations. Also, no return of Raynauds.

Yes, I get the little lumps at the injection sites but the way I look at it, that is just evidence of the fight. Every time I give myself an injection I know I am doing something to help myself. I will fight this disease and I will continue to work as long as possible.

I loved reading all of your posts. I felt so alone with the diagnosis, like I was the only one. My family was supportive but I had no fellow nurses who were surviving with MS to look to for hope, and to say, "If she can do it, I can do it". I explored internet resourses like the National MS society and other organizations and that helped, but reading about other nurses who are surviving and working despite their challenges is inspiring.
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No. 42
from sharona97
Old Oct 12, 2007, 06:12 AM
Updated Oct 12, 2007 at 06:14 AM by sharona97

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Hi Brian,

I don't have MS but certainly am intrigued by the positive attitudes from all of the posters. It's gota be rough. My point I'd like to make that profoundly hit me was.."don't slam the door in your face". How true this is, and thank you for reminding me of this and sharing your story.
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No. 43
from kmrmom42
Old Oct 13, 2007, 11:28 AM

Default Question re: Copaxone-HELP!!!
Well, my latest MRI showed new lesions and areas of inflammation. According to the neurologist it also showed brain atrophy That was depressing to hear.
Anyway, I am starting on Copaxone (have used Betaseron before). I am an RN so I do not need instructions on how to give myself SQ injections and they gave me a sample pack of 14 syringes. So, today I gave myself my first shot in the abdomen which is where I always gave myself the betaseron. No problem with the injection itself but the med stung like a son of a B and that pain lasted for alt least 10 minutes. It started easing up after that but I could still feel it for quite a while longer. Is this typical? I am not sure I can deal with this on a daily basis!
Tomorrow I guess I will try another spot but I sure hope it doesn't hurt like that again.
Any suggestions from anyone?
Karen in FL
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No. 44
from deeDawntee
Old Oct 13, 2007, 04:18 PM

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Hi all,
Thank goodness for allnurses and that this thread exists.
I just found out on Friday that I have "multiple" T2 hyperintensities in an MRI I had because of Migraine headaches I was getting. Now doing research, MS makes so much sense in explaining the symptoms I have been having for the past few years. I actually had to insist that my neurologist rule-out or rule-in MS, so I will have a spinal MRI with contrast next week, but won't be able to meet with him until next month to discuss it. It is frustrating to have to be so assertive with a Doctor...I don't WANT to have MS, but if I do have it, I want to start treatment sooner rather than later.

Did anyone else have difficulty establishing a diagnosis? Do you think I should find a different Neurologist or do you think it takes a relatively long time to diagnosis MS?

It makes a lot of sense to me, do you think I am reaching for something that might not be true in order to explain symptoms that I can't explain? (fatigue, dizziness, syncope, NO heat tolerance, diaphoresis, numbness in my right thumb and hand, vision disturbances, I can sleep for days and not feel rested....).
I don't want you to diagnose me, but I am feeling a little overwhelmed. I do have a feeling that I could actually sway this thing one way or another by how I report it. At this point, I don't think my current neurologist thinks I have MS, but is doing the follow-up because I want it. I am trying to be as honest as possible but don't know if he is listening to me....
God!!! makes me want to screeeeeeaaaaammmm!! For crying out loud, I am a nurse, can he just listen to me for 5 minutes without interrupting or arguing? I mean it does feel that I AM arguing for it! But I'm not, I'm arguing for the freakin TRUTH!!!

Sorry, this has become a rant, but I am overwhelmed right now and any advice you have would be appreciated. Thanks.
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No. 45
from sharona97
Old Oct 13, 2007, 05:41 PM

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Hey,
Take a deep breath. I know the stress point of "not knowing what" but knowing there is something going on. In my case, I trusted my original doc, and stayed sick and became worse after 4 months, then seeing a specialist. I was then diagnosed in 48 hours. (NOT MS).

If I had to do it all over again, I would have gotten a second opinion when I had the gut feeling something was wrong and I was symptomatic. Instead of being strung along on 40mg of Pred BID and now 6 years later being worked up for possible Cushings.

If you feel like you'd like another opinion, take the abnormal xrays and the spinal MRI and those results andsee someonwho will make time to see an hear you.

I wish you luck and hope you get an answer soon. You should not have to feel like you are in a argumentative conversation with a doctor. H/she should be listening to what you are feeling and how your sx'x are affecting you. Just my opinion.
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No. 46
from dijmart
Old Oct 13, 2007, 09:09 PM

Default Re: Question re: Copaxone-HELP!!!
Originally Posted by kmrmom42 View Post
No problem with the injection itself but the med stung like a son of a B and that pain lasted for alt least 10 minutes. It started easing up after that but I could still feel it for quite a while longer. Is this typical?
It WAS typical for me when I was on Copaxone and I'm also the one that got enormous lumps under my skin from it.
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No. 47
from dijmart
Old Oct 13, 2007, 10:12 PM

Default Re: Multiple Sclerosis
Originally Posted by dijmart View Post
I'm a new grad R.N. and I have had M.S. since 1991 (I was 21 yrs. old). I was having several attacks per year, I've taken almost all of the injections for M.S. but they all had side effects for me.

My condition stablized 3 yrs. ago, so I told my doc no more injections for me I'll take my chances w/ out it and I decided to go to nursing school (something I always wanted to do) and I had one minor relapse 6 mos. before the nursing program (needed steriods) and only have had mild symptoms from time to time since then.
I felt like adding on to this post I wrote.....

F.Y.I.- Most if not all injectibles for MS have this disclaimer-

"**** The exact correlation between MRI findings and the current or future clinical status of patients, including disability progression, is unknown."

After years of abusing my body and mind with these chemicals and obsessing on my yearly MRI's I finally decided enough was enough!

.....I now only stay on certain oral meds for symptom relief and that's it, no MRI's, no inj.....if I have a flare up worth speaking of, then I'll go on IV steriods, but I'm done with the so called "disease modifying" drugs.
Frankly, I know what the research claims, but I don't know if the drugs really do anything? They surely aren't a cure! I had more attacks when I was on them, then now that I'm off of them.
Oh, and I didn't even mention yet the god aweful depression and suicidal ideation that Betaseron caused me at a ripe old age of 24 after being on it for only 2 mos. or the eating disorder that plagued me for 5 years while on Avonex! Now that I'm off the inj.'s I don't have thoughs problems or issues at all.......coincidence??? I think not.

Actually, it was quite a liberating and freeing decision after YEARS of being on inj's and dealing w/ what they entail (side effects, lab tests, MRI's, exams, ect.).

I'm just trying to educate that not everyone wants to be or should be on these medications and it's okay!
for those of you who chose to go down that road I wish you luck
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No. 48
from sharona97
Old Oct 14, 2007, 05:58 AM

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Dear dijmart,

It sounds like you have alot of willpower! That is awesome. Are u done with school at this point? Keep us posted!
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No. 49
from robinbird
Old Oct 14, 2007, 03:58 PM

Default Re: Question re: Copaxone-HELP!!!
Hi Karen,
Regarding Copaxone, they recommend injecting in a different spot each day. The was I do it is:
Mon-Left hip
Tue-Right hip
Wed-abdomen
Thurs-left thigh
Fri-right thigh
Sat-left arm
Sun-right arm.


For me it also burns after the injection for a few minutes. I make sure to take the syringe out of the fridge for at least 1/2 hour before injection. I don't have much fat on my body so I inject at a 45 degree angle. I have accidentally injected into muscle before and the pain was excruciating, injecting at an angle avoids this.

I do get bumps under my skin from the injection but they are usually gone in about a week for me. But, again, everyone's response is different.

I hope this helps!
Robin
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