Problem applying nclex in california

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Hello, I am an foreign graduate and an rn from Philippines. I migrated here in California last Nov 11 and was planning to take nclex here but when I submit all my requirements they told me that I am not eligible to take the nclex here in Cali. They told me "that they determined that not all aspect of my theory and clinical training meet the requirements in medical surgical and obstetrics. And reflects that some and/or all clinical cases were not completed during the same semester" and they want me to enroll additional course work here in Cali. But, my friend told me i have a second choice to apply nclex in nevada, it is required to take ielts or toefl there even though you are an immigrant already? Hoping for your suggestions and ideas that can help me. Thank you and god bless!

i have repeated my nclex rn exam at cali board and i have recieved a letter requiring clinical rotations and so much..after i have requested from my school all the requirements and submitted to cali board...guess what cali board wrote me a respond that my application is concurrent or wait for their decisions...i came to find out that the truth is they no longer wanted foriegn graduates.Whats the point of asking those requirements if denied an applications,cost money and time.Why not just tell foreign graduates who will ne taking nclex board not to pass requirement to them..really disappointing.Make me really sicked.Then ....just yesterday i spoke to oregon board director i was told that they are requiring now a local board(frm your country and 3 years clinical experience local country and if you were a graduates of morethan 3 years ,want you back to restudy again.Very disapponted.She even know whats goin on in Cali board...im assuming that all states must be affected and tougher now to get nclex rn..Im US citizen ,went to Manila to finish my nursing and this is what im getting out of all the money i spent in school and my time..i tried florida state but rquiring english proficiency test,new mexico same thing but if you live in compact state you cant take new mexico board exam...nevada samething.Im really sad and disappointed i fe like no luck and where else could i inquire?sad

Kasy, I too feel your disappointment and anger, but have you read all the other topics in the other International forums? It gets worse.

There are already 12 other states requiring that we take our courses on a concurrent basis, which is 100% the fault of our own educational system, thanks to the CHED, PRC and PNA. It was reported they are all trying to correct their mistakes that has been in existence since 1987! I think most of PH grads were just born around then and they never ever took the needed measures to make sure we complied with US minimum standards.

Did you read Geegeebaby's post above? She said it all and then some. Those that are going to graduate from PH probably from 2014 on will not be affected as finally the light bulb went off.

You do also have to know that even if you have a license from another state with lot of experience, you can't endorse back into CA or any state with the concurrency issues, since you'll be asked for your transcripts all over again.

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TO: Kassy:

We have three options as a foreign student now (if you want to stay in CA):

You can do 2 things: (one doesn't allow you to remain in CA to work or practice)

1. Go back to school in an accredited program in CA. But just know it's nearly impossible to find them and if you do, there are thousands of other students from India, UK, Phil, China, Russia, etc going after those 1-3 spots, if that. Most courses are only offered once a year.

2. Apply for licensure in another state that do not have the concurrency requirements, but so far, we know of 12 other states that do, look over in the International forums, there might be more states enforcing those requirements. This option doesn't allow you to work in CA at all, as you're not able to endorse the license over for the same denial reasons of your CA application.

3). Apply to become an LVN, you can have your transcripts sent over from the CA BON staffer, you need to go to the CA LVN website, as they are different from the RN side. Just know that LVN jobs are even tougher to get as many hospitals are no longer hiring as many, some places are even letting them go.

One reason the CA BON was cracking down on the foreign students was it was noted that many fail the NCLEX more than once and that's a reflection on the educational system of at least for PH grads and nurses. In the States, it's over 85% overall passing versus PH was under 50%, more like 43% passing the first time. From my understanding, CA BON as in most states, they base the educational background as the main foundation.

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Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.

Concurrent issues are not only affecting PH nurses it is affecting many of the online US nursing programs. States are making decisions about the education these online schools are giving and they are making changes to their application guidelines. If they apply it to the US schools they need to apply it to the foreign schools as well.

If a market that is flooded with nurses they can now enforce the rules. It's applied to everyone not just foreign nurses.

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Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

Moved to the Nurse registration forum in World.

As mentioned there are many threads discussing this issue

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Specializes in ER.

I've read this from another thread.

Hello. To all the aspiring NCLEX applicants of California Board of Registered Nursing.

At this time, California is imposing severe restrictions on your applications. This is a result of some incompetent Filipino graduate nurses who recently became Registered Nurses but were reported delinquent to a disciplinary committee in California due to bad nursing practice OR a select few applicants who produced fraudulent nursing records in order to comply with the CA-BRN. It also became a result due to certain select falsified Nursing diplomas of applicants who, while living in the United States, in hopes of fooling the California Board of Registered Nursing produced the commonly called *Recto falsified documents*. This implementation began in November 2011 and affects all aspiring (non-passing) re-applicants, brand new-applicants, and future RN renewals (of Philippine Graduate) in the State of California.

(Note: The falsified documents from "Recto" does not refer to any nursing school associated with that name. Rather, the term "Recto" is a colloquial term which refers to falsified or doctored transcripts/diplomas/documents which may be obtained for sale along Claro M. Recto Avenue in Manila, Philippines.)

Should you choose to apply for a Nursing License in California---whether as already an American Citizen or with Filipino Citizenship---you *will* be subjected to the following concurrency issues. Please note that all applicant fees and mailing fees submitted to the State of California are non-refundable and final.

1. That you should possess a Nursing License administered by the Republic of the Philippines through the Philippine Regulation Commission.

2. If you were once a foreign student, i.e. American Citizen, or U.S. immigrant with a limited visa time allowance while studying in the Philippines----a formal letter of explanation is required as to why you did not comply with obtaining a Philippine Nursing License (due to limit of timestay accorded by your Philippine Student Visa).

2. That your nursing clinical rotation schedule AND clinical cases be complete *per* skill type.

3. That your nursing clinical cases must be complete *BEFORE* the date of your graduation ceremony.

4. That your nursing clinical cases must strictly match *WITHIN* the semester associated with RLE or NCM skill---in addition to having been completed *before* the date of graduation ceremony. (Note: This refers to some nursing schools in the Philippines that are not subjected to CHED's regulation do not have this rule in their curriculum)

5. That you should possess a valid SSN or TIN number for security and verification purposes.

Failure or inability to fully comply with these requirements are grounds for the rejection of your application packet.

At this time, a certain motion is also being prepared to affect Philippine graduates already working as Registered Nurses in California to be subjected to the same concurrency regulation ONCE their License Renewal is to be updated.

Should an applicant chose to apply to another State, other than California and be approved to take the NCLEX and be a licensed Registered Nurse in that state (i.e. Vermont, New Mexico, Etc.)----returning back to California in hopes of reciprocity at a future date will still subject you to the same concurrency regulation---and be denied of Licensure in California---as the basis of CA-BRN Licensing Unit is education---not the passage of NCLEX examination or the obtainment of License at another U.S. state.

Should the California Board of Registered Nursing offer you a partial solution, it is among the following items:

1. Comply with the requirements needed as itemized on the letter of response. If you believe that you have completed your cases before the date of graduation ceremony, and within the structured semestral confines of your RLE and NCM *per* type of case matching----then ask your Nursing School to comply and produce those requested documents.

2. If your application is deemed incomplete, then a partial solution would be to re-take your cases at an accredited California Nursing School. At this time, no Nursing School or any Nursing business establishment will provided cases for Free, or cases without a paid tuition fee classes associated with the clinical case. (Business-wise it isn't profitable for the school). And it is wishful thinking that the school will consider you, a NON-enrolled student, be prioritized first before their own paying students with tuition-fee obligation---to which the school must commit to graduate.

3. Since no other school is offering these cases, ONLY the University of San Francisco is offering these cases at this time----the usual requirement by the California Board of Registered Nursing is the completion of Medical Surge and Obstetric Cases-----the usual timeline to complete these cases is One Year. After which, you must still re-apply again in entirety to the Board of Registered Nursing and seek to be approved to take the NCLEX examination, pay the non-refundable application Fee, comply with the required Nursing School documents. Even then, the NCLEX examination approval and the NCLEX passing are *not* guaranteed.

4. Move on or choose to take up another profession other than Nursing.

5. Contact your Assembly locality or other Nursing Associations who may shed assistance, advice, or solutions to this delicate matter.

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hi.im a newbie here

i was currently denied the eligibility to take the NCLEX-RN in CA.

i studied at philippines and go back here right after may graduation.

my analyst suggest me to take the LVN test.she also told me that she can forward my requirements from CA BRN to CA LVN and pay a $30 fee for forwarding the documents.

when i checked the LVN site.Im confused to what application form should i fll up.

Method #2 - Graduates of an Out-of-State School of Practical/Vocational Nursing

or

Method #3 - Equivalent Education and/or Experience

any information is appreciated

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hi.im a newbie here

i was currently denied the eligibility to take the NCLEX-RN in CA.

i studied at philippines and go back here right after may graduation.

my analyst suggest me to take the LVN test.she also told me that she can forward my requirements from CA BRN to CA LVN and pay a $30 fee for forwarding the documents.

when i checked the LVN site.Im confused to what application form should i fll up.

Method #2 - Graduates of an Out-of-State School of Practical/Vocational Nursing

or

ny information is appreciated

Suggest you cruise thru this forum as there's lots of information that helps you do this almost on a step-by-step basis and what to put into the various line items. Good luck!

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hi giggleangle.

im with the same boat and am sinking with frustrations as to the regulations of the BRN-CA but i will try my life vest to survive. I wanna know have to do as a solution to the problem like going back to school.

im closed to san francisco state university and would like to complete my cases..if you have any idea as to what to do..kindly unselfishly share with us here. and it will be appreciated as it helps us a lot.

no other resort except going back to school but i dont know what to do.. do i need to enrol the medsurg subject or il just enrol for the cases..pls..provide us informations.

thank u

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Specializes in Medical Surgical.

Have you had you credentials evaluated by the board of nursing yet? If you apply, which may take months, then they will see if you are eligible to take the NCLEX. They will send you an ATT, but if you have a problem with cases then they will send you the classes that you will need to take. Majority are being required to take medical surgical nursing and redo their OB cases with theories i believe. You shouldn't assume the classes because they may require you to take less classes or more depending on your evaluation.

If you want to enroll on classes, contact the nearest schools in your area. Ask if they are willing to accommodate you from other 100 applicants to be in the program. It's very difficult. There are other routes, such as applying in states. just not these 12 states

Alabama

Arizona

California

Georgia

Illinois

Kansas

Louisiana

Maryland

North Dakota

Oklahoma

Vermont

Virginia

Washington

*Nevada

*I've added Nevada because recently there have been 3 applicants who was required to take a physical assessment exam and a level 2 medical surgical subject.

Don't limit your option to only California. There are 39 other states out there.

hi giggleangle.

im with the same boat and am sinking with frustrations as to the regulations of the BRN-CA but i will try my life vest to survive. I wanna know have to do as a solution to the problem like going back to school.

im closed to san francisco state university and would like to complete my cases..if you have any idea as to what to do..kindly unselfishly share with us here. and it will be appreciated as it helps us a lot.

no other resort except going back to school but i dont know what to do.. do i need to enrol the medsurg subject or il just enrol for the cases..pls..provide us informations.

thank u

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hi giggleangle.

im with the same boat and am sinking with frustrations as to the regulations of the BRN-CA but i will try my life vest to survive. I wanna know have to do as a solution to the problem like going back to school.

im closed to san francisco state university and would like to complete my cases..if you have any idea as to what to do..kindly unselfishly share with us here. and it will be appreciated as it helps us a lot.

no other resort except going back to school but i dont know what to do.. do i need to enrol the medsurg subject or il just enrol for the cases..pls..provide us informations.

thank u

Wow, that's great you're close by SFSU. That's one of the schools that was offering the deficient courses, your best answer is right at your doorsteps.

I would take a stroll over to their school and enquire at the nursing program office, let us know your findings. Good luck!

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hey my edu hv been evaluated by cgfns but my state require ilets ,,,,is it possible to change my state now...repot issued to me

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Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.
hey my edu hv been evaluated by cgfns but my state require ilets ,,,,is it possible to change my state now...repot issued to me

Do you plan on working in the state you made your initial application in? If so IELTS may still be required when endorsing license. You can however go to another state and there is a fee for CGFNS to send CES report to new state. You can not send your copy it must come direct from CGFNS

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