Problem applying nclex in california - page 3

hello, i am an foreign graduate and an RN from philippines. i migrated here in california last nov 11 and was planning to take nclex here but when i submit all my requirements they told me that i am... Read More

  1. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    Concurrent issues are not only affecting PH nurses it is affecting many of the online US nursing programs. States are making decisions about the education these online schools are giving and they are making changes to their application guidelines. If they apply it to the US schools they need to apply it to the foreign schools as well.

    If a market that is flooded with nurses they can now enforce the rules. It's applied to everyone not just foreign nurses.
    Last edit by Esme12 on Aug 14, '12
    lloi likes this.
  2. Visit  Silverdragon102 profile page
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    Moved to the Nurse registration forum in World.

    As mentioned there are many threads discussing this issue
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  3. Visit  giggleangel profile page
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    I've read this from another thread.

    Hello. To all the aspiring NCLEX applicants of California Board of Registered Nursing.

    At this time, California is imposing severe restrictions on your applications. This is a result of some incompetent Filipino graduate nurses who recently became Registered Nurses but were reported delinquent to a disciplinary committee in California due to bad nursing practice OR a select few applicants who produced fraudulent nursing records in order to comply with the CA-BRN. It also became a result due to certain select falsified Nursing diplomas of applicants who, while living in the United States, in hopes of fooling the California Board of Registered Nursing produced the commonly called *Recto falsified documents*. This implementation began in November 2011 and affects all aspiring (non-passing) re-applicants, brand new-applicants, and future RN renewals (of Philippine Graduate) in the State of California.

    (Note: The falsified documents from "Recto" does not refer to any nursing school associated with that name. Rather, the term "Recto" is a colloquial term which refers to falsified or doctored transcripts/diplomas/documents which may be obtained for sale along Claro M. Recto Avenue in Manila, Philippines.)

    Should you choose to apply for a Nursing License in California---whether as already an American Citizen or with Filipino Citizenship---you *will* be subjected to the following concurrency issues. Please note that all applicant fees and mailing fees submitted to the State of California are non-refundable and final.

    1. That you should possess a Nursing License administered by the Republic of the Philippines through the Philippine Regulation Commission.

    2. If you were once a foreign student, i.e. American Citizen, or U.S. immigrant with a limited visa time allowance while studying in the Philippines----a formal letter of explanation is required as to why you did not comply with obtaining a Philippine Nursing License (due to limit of timestay accorded by your Philippine Student Visa).

    2. That your nursing clinical rotation schedule AND clinical cases be complete *per* skill type.

    3. That your nursing clinical cases must be complete *BEFORE* the date of your graduation ceremony.

    4. That your nursing clinical cases must strictly match *WITHIN* the semester associated with RLE or NCM skill---in addition to having been completed *before* the date of graduation ceremony. (Note: This refers to some nursing schools in the Philippines that are not subjected to CHED's regulation do not have this rule in their curriculum)

    5. That you should possess a valid SSN or TIN number for security and verification purposes.

    Failure or inability to fully comply with these requirements are grounds for the rejection of your application packet.

    At this time, a certain motion is also being prepared to affect Philippine graduates already working as Registered Nurses in California to be subjected to the same concurrency regulation ONCE their License Renewal is to be updated.

    Should an applicant chose to apply to another State, other than California and be approved to take the NCLEX and be a licensed Registered Nurse in that state (i.e. Vermont, New Mexico, Etc.)----returning back to California in hopes of reciprocity at a future date will still subject you to the same concurrency regulation---and be denied of Licensure in California---as the basis of CA-BRN Licensing Unit is education---not the passage of NCLEX examination or the obtainment of License at another U.S. state.

    Should the California Board of Registered Nursing offer you a partial solution, it is among the following items:

    1. Comply with the requirements needed as itemized on the letter of response. If you believe that you have completed your cases before the date of graduation ceremony, and within the structured semestral confines of your RLE and NCM *per* type of case matching----then ask your Nursing School to comply and produce those requested documents.

    2. If your application is deemed incomplete, then a partial solution would be to re-take your cases at an accredited California Nursing School. At this time, no Nursing School or any Nursing business establishment will provided cases for Free, or cases without a paid tuition fee classes associated with the clinical case. (Business-wise it isn't profitable for the school). And it is wishful thinking that the school will consider you, a NON-enrolled student, be prioritized first before their own paying students with tuition-fee obligation---to which the school must commit to graduate.

    3. Since no other school is offering these cases, ONLY the University of San Francisco is offering these cases at this time----the usual requirement by the California Board of Registered Nursing is the completion of Medical Surge and Obstetric Cases-----the usual timeline to complete these cases is One Year. After which, you must still re-apply again in entirety to the Board of Registered Nursing and seek to be approved to take the NCLEX examination, pay the non-refundable application Fee, comply with the required Nursing School documents. Even then, the NCLEX examination approval and the NCLEX passing are *not* guaranteed.

    4. Move on or choose to take up another profession other than Nursing.

    5. Contact your Assembly locality or other Nursing Associations who may shed assistance, advice, or solutions to this delicate matter.
  4. Visit  kSheen profile page
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    hi.im a newbie here
    i was currently denied the eligibility to take the NCLEX-RN in CA.
    i studied at philippines and go back here right after may graduation.
    my analyst suggest me to take the LVN test.she also told me that she can forward my requirements from CA BRN to CA LVN and pay a $30 fee for forwarding the documents.
    when i checked the LVN site.Im confused to what application form should i fll up.


    Method #2 - Graduates of an Out-of-State School of Practical/Vocational Nursing

    or

    Method #3 - Equivalent Education and/or Experience


    a
    ny information is appreciated
  5. Visit  steppybay profile page
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    Quote from kSheen
    hi.im a newbie here
    i was currently denied the eligibility to take the NCLEX-RN in CA.
    i studied at philippines and go back here right after may graduation.
    my analyst suggest me to take the LVN test.she also told me that she can forward my requirements from CA BRN to CA LVN and pay a $30 fee for forwarding the documents.
    when i checked the LVN site.Im confused to what application form should i fll up.


    Method #2 - Graduates of an Out-of-State School of Practical/Vocational Nursing

    or

    ny information is appreciated
    Suggest you cruise thru this forum as there's lots of information that helps you do this almost on a step-by-step basis and what to put into the various line items. Good luck!
  6. Visit  lloi profile page
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    hi giggleangle.
    im with the same boat and am sinking with frustrations as to the regulations of the BRN-CA but i will try my life vest to survive. I wanna know have to do as a solution to the problem like going back to school.
    im closed to san francisco state university and would like to complete my cases..if you have any idea as to what to do..kindly unselfishly share with us here. and it will be appreciated as it helps us a lot.
    no other resort except going back to school but i dont know what to do.. do i need to enrol the medsurg subject or il just enrol for the cases..pls..provide us informations.
    thank u
  7. Visit  Kuyafern profile page
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    Have you had you credentials evaluated by the board of nursing yet? If you apply, which may take months, then they will see if you are eligible to take the NCLEX. They will send you an ATT, but if you have a problem with cases then they will send you the classes that you will need to take. Majority are being required to take medical surgical nursing and redo their OB cases with theories i believe. You shouldn't assume the classes because they may require you to take less classes or more depending on your evaluation.
    If you want to enroll on classes, contact the nearest schools in your area. Ask if they are willing to accommodate you from other 100 applicants to be in the program. It's very difficult. There are other routes, such as applying in states. just not these 12 states
    Alabama
    Arizona
    California
    Georgia
    Illinois
    Kansas
    Louisiana
    Maryland
    North Dakota
    Oklahoma
    Vermont
    Virginia
    Washington
    *Nevada

    *I've added Nevada because recently there have been 3 applicants who was required to take a physical assessment exam and a level 2 medical surgical subject.

    Don't limit your option to only California. There are 39 other states out there.


    Quote from lloi
    hi giggleangle.
    im with the same boat and am sinking with frustrations as to the regulations of the BRN-CA but i will try my life vest to survive. I wanna know have to do as a solution to the problem like going back to school.
    im closed to san francisco state university and would like to complete my cases..if you have any idea as to what to do..kindly unselfishly share with us here. and it will be appreciated as it helps us a lot.
    no other resort except going back to school but i dont know what to do.. do i need to enrol the medsurg subject or il just enrol for the cases..pls..provide us informations.
    thank u
  8. Visit  steppybay profile page
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    Quote from lloi
    hi giggleangle.
    im with the same boat and am sinking with frustrations as to the regulations of the BRN-CA but i will try my life vest to survive. I wanna know have to do as a solution to the problem like going back to school.
    im closed to san francisco state university and would like to complete my cases..if you have any idea as to what to do..kindly unselfishly share with us here. and it will be appreciated as it helps us a lot.
    no other resort except going back to school but i dont know what to do.. do i need to enrol the medsurg subject or il just enrol for the cases..pls..provide us informations.
    thank u
    Wow, that's great you're close by SFSU. That's one of the schools that was offering the deficient courses, your best answer is right at your doorsteps.

    I would take a stroll over to their school and enquire at the nursing program office, let us know your findings. Good luck!
    Last edit by steppybay on Aug 25, '12 : Reason: spelling
  9. Visit  shergillnav profile page
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    hey my edu hv been evaluated by cgfns but my state require ilets ,,,,is it possible to change my state now...repot issued to me
  10. Visit  Silverdragon102 profile page
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    Quote from shergillnav
    hey my edu hv been evaluated by cgfns but my state require ilets ,,,,is it possible to change my state now...repot issued to me
    Do you plan on working in the state you made your initial application in? If so IELTS may still be required when endorsing license. You can however go to another state and there is a fee for CGFNS to send CES report to new state. You can not send your copy it must come direct from CGFNS
  11. Visit  shergillnav profile page
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    yes but cgfns ll not send my report to my state untill i fullfill ilets requirement....... i think once i give exam in california state then i endore my licence here....then i can give ilets freely ...now i engage myself in nclex prepration ...i dont want ilets interfere in it.........after getting licence i can fullfill ilets.........is it oka silver
  12. Visit  charlei09 profile page
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    hi I have also the same problem, just received the letter yesterday, and I was so frustrated and disappointed and don't know what to do?
  13. Visit  guiatorres profile page
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    I am really sad about this. seriously. I am processing my NCLEX applications only to find this out because a friend told me about this issue and I, of course researched how true this is. Just a question though, do you know of anybody who applied recently that was approved to take the NCLEX exams? Because if that's the case, I would just stop my application. It is big money too. and I can't afford to waste it. :-(

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