Nursing in California - Aussie Nurse - Process
- 0Jun 4, '12 by Celestial2311Hi Everyone,
I am an Australian Citizen (Nurse - RN), residing in Australia. I had recently visited CA for a holiday and my kids liked the place. So I have planned to take up employment in the USA - CA. I have done a bit of googling for info. Seems Aussies can apply for a E3 Visa. Request to know what is the best way to get to CA. Are employment agents the way to go. Can anyone suggest a reputable agent. Then again i have stumbled with the SSN that is now required to register with the CA-BON. Is anybody out there that can break it down to a easy to understand. End of this thread will lie the answer. Can we go or break the bad news to the kids. Request your time and advice for the same.
- 1Jun 5, '12 by Silverdragon102, RN AdminCurrently you can not apply to CA ( plus a couple of other states) without US SSN which you can not get until in the US with a valid visa. Not sure what experience you have but many US nurses in CA are struggling to find work so may be hard to find a employer. There are a few posts discussing E3 and will post members name later to search for and read what they say. You will need to find a state to apply to and meet requirements for licensure before they will approve to sit NCLEX and once you have met requirements and license issued once in the US you can apply to CA and meet their requirements. Be aware depending on your transcripts you will be required to have both clinical and theory hours in Paeds, Mental Health, Obstetrics and Adult.
- 0Jun 5, '12 by ceridwyn GuideMental health is not a problem usually as all nursing degrees in Australia are required to have large amount of mental health in their programs, I did weeks and weeks of the stuff clinically and theory ""çoncurrently''. Its the paeds and obstetrics that our degree does not have as these are considered specialisations, to do after general nursing education. Adult should be no problem, med and surg, mental health, rehab. aged care. Come to think of it mental health is considered a specialisation as well! :spin:
To the poster, it will be difficult for you to be considered on par education wise with the Californian RN. Many Australian nurses have had to take on subjects of paeds and midi, (unless you are a midwife and have worked in paeds for a few years) and then you must pass the NCLEX. Jobs apparently are extremely difficult to get there according to the Californian nursing forum, they are difficult to get anywhere in the States.Last edit by ceridwyn on Jun 5, '12
- 0Jun 8, '12 by Celestial2311If using a agent is the only way to come to the USA. What advice would you have using migration employment agents. Things to look for. What I am entitled to, what to bargain for. What to avoid. Any other important stuff. Then again how does it work. Is there a contract for a certian period under which I will have to work for them. What would you suggest if any other alternative? Thanks.
- 0Jun 8, '12 by Silverdragon102, RN AdminUsing an agent is not the only way. You could do it yourself but I doubt you could bargin for much with current economic state in the US. Depending on visa will depend on contract but if E3 I believe you will be tied to one employer unless you find another employer willing to go route and then you may have to apply for another E3 visa for new employer
- 0Jun 9, '12 by NO50FRANNYQuote from Celestial2311I wouldn't go through a recruitment firm if possible and when I made enquiries about a year ago, none of them were taking on Australian nurses because of the GFC and lack of positions. To register as an RN in the States (if you are not a midwife or paeds nurse) you need to do extra study and clinical placements to be given authority to sit the NCLEX exam. Our bachelor's degree does not meet their requirements for paeds/obstetrics in any US state. I have just completed two of the four modules necessary through Deakin Uni's Professional Development Unit in Melbourne externally and they are the only university in OZ that offer the course. I managed two modules in 3 months while working fulltime (2 assignments, 2 exams). The total cost is around $6000. You have to organise your own 80 hour clinical placement for each specialty which is difficult to arrange and I am still trying. Once you complete all this the board of nursing in whichever state gives you "authority to test". Then you sit the NCLEX (in Sydney), hopefully pass, and then after a few months you will have your registration. Bank on everything taking at least a year at bare minimum.If using a agent is the only way to come to the USA. What advice would you have using migration employment agents. Things to look for. What I am entitled to, what to bargain for. What to avoid. Any other important stuff. Then again how does it work. Is there a contract for a certian period under which I will have to work for them. What would you suggest if any other alternative? Thanks.
Recently, California changed their rules and decided that after many years, they would no longer accept Deakins' course, however, every other US state does. Interestingly if a New York nurse wants to work in California they have to do further study also. If you want to register in CA, you have to do the study there at around $10,000 I believe. This is the kind of money you owe your recruitment agency if they facilitate your registration. I know of someone who went through a recruitment firm to get registered and due to family issues was unable to go- they billed him $20,000. I am not sure how you would go doing the study and maybe trying to register in a different state and transfer across to CA, I don't think you would get around their requirements somehow. As for the working visa, you need a job first I believe and employers won't be interested unless you are registered. There is an awful lot of legwork involved but like they say, anything that is worth doing.... If you do all this you can register in Canada and 49 states of the US.Last edit by NO50FRANNY on Jun 9, '12
- 0Jun 9, '12 by grantsally1Hi celestial 2311. I was reading your posts with interest. We are also Aussies and my wife has been through the painful and $$$ route to get her ATT number to take nclex in hawaii soon. We started the process about 18 months back and let me tell you cgfns are a nightmare to deal with. We will be using E3 visa and if she passes nclex obtaining a New Mexico license. My wife has been working as a midwife for 14 years and will be looking at labor and delivery type positions at magnet status hospitals. We are also looking at agencies but realize it is straight forward dealing direct with large hospitals HR departments and will probably not use an agency. I think you may be looking at the hardest state to gain employment in ca. We have toyed with Tx which has many magnet status hospitals and appears to be doing better than other states or nth Carolina. We will be traveling with 3 young kids of school age also and seeing as much as possible of the U.S.
- 0Jun 15, '12 by Celestial2311Thanks everyone for your post. Grantsally1. What is unclear here is how to get around to getting a SSN to register for NCLEX. What is the meaning of ATT that u have used. Then also is it possible to contact the hospital directly and will they wait so long for the completion of all formalities before starting employment. SSN or social security numbers are only issued to US citizens or have a work permit. Catch 22 how to get around this. Then again calling hospitals, which department do we call and would they have the time to entertain our calls. Are there any agents here in Australia that do the migration and employment process. Lots on the US side, but googled and could not find employment agencies here.
- 0Jun 15, '12 by Silverdragon102, RN AdminQuote from Celestial2311There is no way to get around the requirement of a US SSN. ATT is something you receive from pearsonvue via the board of nursing that gives you permission to sit NCLEX because you have met their requirements.Thanks everyone for your post. Grantsally1. What is unclear here is how to get around to getting a SSN to register for NCLEX. What is the meaning of ATT that u have used. Then also is it possible to contact the hospital directly and will they wait so long for the completion of all formalities before starting employment. SSN or social security numbers are only issued to US citizens or have a work permit. Catch 22 how to get around this. Then again calling hospitals, which department do we call and would they have the time to entertain our calls. Are there any agents here in Australia that do the migration and employment process. Lots on the US side, but googled and could not find employment agencies here.Last edit by Silverdragon102 on Jun 16, '12