Complying with CA BON deficient courses

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As the title states for the folks that have to take certain courses such as OB, MS or either Psyc, has anyone visited and spoken to any Nursing directors at the approved CA BON Nursing Schools listed on the website?

If so please share us your thoughts on the matter, it would help thousands of Nursing Graduates that received this special requirement that we need to comply with the CA BON before NCLEX examination.

Specializes in OR-ICU.
MSMC....is Mt. St. Mary's College in the Los Angeles, CA area.....private school.

USF is also a private college, but very expensive tuition like $35,000 a year or about $50,000 to attend with housing and books!!

But the two nurses I met graduated from there last year and if you're smart and maintain annual high grades, the school pays for each year's tuition. Nice!

Both were hired into their choice of hospitals just before they graduated and got a very nice starting new grad salary:uhoh3: with night shifts pay and weekend differentials, they will make over $100,000 a year!

One of the nurses is a Filipina, she's not only one very smart cookie but looks like a model.

Anyone who tells you they will make over $100k per year as starting nurses is pulling your leg, have not actually worked for a year to really see how the pay/hour cycle goes, or they are just plain hot air. Tell them to get real.

Anyone who tells you they will make over $100k per year as starting nurses is pulling your leg, have not actually worked for a year to really see how the pay/hour cycle goes, or they are just plain hot air. Tell them to get real.

You definitely don't know the facts! :roflmao:

Stanford Univ. Med Center (in CA) starts minimum at $55.00 (NEW GRAD pay scale). I have also seen her paycheck!

I suggest you can easily ask any NG at Stanford what they are paying if you're there.

Lucile Packard Hospital (a sister hospital to Stanford) they pay less but one can easily make close to $100K.

These are both Nor Cal based hospitals.

Specializes in OR-ICU.
You definitely don't know the facts! :roflmao:

Stanford Univ. Med Center (in CA) starts minimum at $55.00 (NEW GRAD pay scale). I have also seen her paycheck!

I suggest you can easily ask any NG at Stanford what they are paying if you're there.

Lucile Packard Hospital (a sister hospital to Stanford) they pay less but one can easily make close to $100K.

These are both Nor Cal based hospitals.

Sure. Have you worked there for a year at least or did you just see one paycheck. Big difference. I have yet to meet anyone flashing their W2s around. FYI I used to work NorCal. Like I said HOT AIR

Sure. Have you worked there for a year at least or did you just see one paycheck. Big difference. I have yet to meet anyone flashing their W2s around. FYI I used to work NorCal. Like I said HOT AIR

What don't you understand?

I didn't say I worked there for a year, I'm saying a USF Filipina nursing friend I met is actually working there in the Stanford hospital.

The reason I was able to look at her paycheck stub was we were at dinner with about 6 other friends, talked about everything and somehow (without BRAGGING), the topic of her 2012 New Grad hospital job came up.

Someone asked her about the pay there, she said $55, we ALL said "get out of here, girl". She just so happen to have her paycheck stub. It CLEARLY said $47.00 per hour and with differentials it was actually $55. So it was not a W2 form.

It was a very easy math deduction with a calculator, she was making over $100,000, hands down!!

She just started working since June, 2012 less than one year!!

Here read the May 7, 2012 topic:

https://allnurses.com/registered-nurses-diploma/starting-salary-new-706926-page2.html

Btw, notice there's another Nor Cal paying over $46 an hour, add some diff's to that, easily get close to the $100K and her other friend works there in the ICU as 2012 new grad.

It is what it is.

You must have worked in Nor Cal in the 1970's? Or truly don't know recent salary ranges in that area?

I have nothing but respect for the Boards decision. If we were in their place we would do the same, and to protect our own, we would strictly enforce rules that were granted a degree of leniency due to the shortage, and people must acknowledge that.

All the hardships I am experiencing right now, all the sense of hopelessness, if anything, it granted me one thing: appreciation

of the efforts and the labor others had to endure to get to where they are now :)

Edward.

You might feel appreciation. I just feel ****** off. I wasted 4 years of my life for a piece of paper that say's I have a Bachelor Degree but it is not acknowledged by the state I was born and raised in. I feel cheated. I took the Nclex once already but did not pass and I got denied on my re-application. Talk about oppurtunity knocking only once huh. Hypocritical if you ask me.

Bayarearesident, As an American why did you go to an international school? The fact you did not pass the nclex means your education did not prepare you well for US nursing.

I went to an international school because I could not afford to go to college in the United States. I don't want to blame my school for not passing, others have taken the exam once and others more than once. I still don't get how I can qualify and then a few months later not qualify.

My wife took the Nclex twice and is also a foreign graduate. She is now a succesful Licsensed RN working legally in the US. I do understand that the Nclex is minimum requirement and really should be passed on the first try. I guess I will settle for being an LVN until I can find classes and money to fulfill my educational deficiencies.

I went to an international school because I could not afford to go to college in the United States. I don't want to blame my school for not passing, others have taken the exam once and others more than once. I still don't get how I can qualify and then a few months later not qualify.

My wife took the Nclex twice and is also a foreign graduate. She is now a succesful Licsensed RN working legally in the US. I do understand that the Nclex is minimum requirement and really should be passed on the first try. I guess I will settle for being an LVN until I can find classes and money to fulfill my educational deficiencies.

Yea, it was a matter of timing in between your first time non-passing then re-applying. If one applied prior to Nov. 2011 plus or minus a month or two, one was able to get their ATT, BUT then anyone either applying for the first time or on a re-application AFTER the fateful month of 2011, did the CA BRN start the strict restrictions on enforcing the 25 year old concurrency rules that's written in the CA policies.

Nevada actually has had the concurrency rules since 1952!! As with any US State's BON's, they can do what they feel works for the present time and situation, meaning they can enforce or not do so.

Since it's a privilege, not a right to become an RN, as long as one meets the minimum said requirements. While the CHED didn't have to meet any of the State's requirements, as it must only be more concern with the Phils own needs and wants, it is now attempting to meet that minimum of the States. I think we shall see if the CHED has done so with the new applicants coming in from the Phils of the 2013 graduating class. The word is that the CHED will not make the actual changes till the 2016 year, so we'll see soon.

When the big BOOM of the rash of PH nursing schools opened up in the early-mid 2000's, it just created a bigger mess of not enough "qualified" clinical instructors, not enough patients to go around, not enough hospitals to take in the mass amount of students, 25-35 plus students per patient ratio is not a good teaching method, etc.

SUCCESS....FINALLY......someone got into a CA approved school and soon to take the NCLEX-RN in CA!!!

Actually, there's more than one person...poster Lyly, says some close friends got in and another poster SoCalNurse88 just finished taking the deficient class and found eligible and got the ATT!! Yipeee!!

Click here for the story: https://allnurses.com/general-nursing-student/raised-america-nursing-831332.html

Good luck ladies!!

Another SUCCESS story!! This isn't in CA, SoCalNurse88 went to AZ, got a CA approval for the CA ATT and soon to take the NCLEX-RN!!

Click here: https://allnurses.com/world-nursing/received-att-california-832461.html

Good going!!

Bayarearesident As an American why did you go to an international school? The fact you did not pass the nclex means your education did not prepare you well for US nursing.[/quote']

Hi. I know you are wrong. I am a American RN who went to school in the USA/CA and just because some nurses dont pass nclex-rn does not mean mean "the education" from the PH is All bad... In the PH the real school make sure are a great nurse. Many schools in the USA prepare you just for nclex-rn and not bedside care as much as they should...

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