CA Board of Nursing - page 38
i was eligible to sit for the nclex for California. wow.. so i took my exam this september, went the distance all 265 questions. unfortunately i didnt pass. got my results and "near passing... Read More
0Jul 5, '13 by Ginger's MomQuote from dhenz91The Ca board of nursing is looking at your initial education, if it is not concurrent the Masters Degree is not going to help you.So if you are a Master's Degree holder, they won't bother about you're cases concurrent to your theory semesters?
So if you are a Master's Degree holder, you are illegible to take the NCLEX-RN in California?
So if you are a Master's Degree holder, do you still need to take up additional courses in Cali??
please clear my mind, cause if that's the case, i will take up my Master's Degree here in the Philippines then..
0Sep 7, '14 by wolfgangRNQuote from juan de la cruzI see this is an old thread, but I'm glad I found somebody who knows the Philippine Nursing program well. I get miffed whenever I see posters saying our country's curriculum is insufficient, not competitive enough, or not up to par with the US, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT TRUE. The problem in the Philippines is that these standards are not strictly implemented BUT there are schools that have taken care of their reputation for a very long time. To post a general statement is unfair and misleading. It breaks my heart when I see comments by US nurses demeaning Filipino nurses based on the hasty generalizations fellow Filipinos post here. I mean come on, we all know which schools are substandard. Why go there anyway?This is not about educational standards. This is the California Board of Nursing saying enough is enough with the foreign educated nursing applicants from the Philippines in a climate when there are so many unemployed nurses who went to California nursing programs and are not able to find jobs. Those of you who are US residents or US citizens who went out of your way to go to nursing school in the Philippines thinking that it will be a smarter move (cheaper tuition, cheaper cost of living, no wait list or admission lottery) are the "collateral damage" to this scheme.
First, there's no way the Board of Registered Nursing knows which schools in the Philippines are substandard. They are going by official transcript of records, clinical rotation records (or Related Learning Experience records), and comleted OR, Nursery, and Delivery Room cases. All these documents can look good on paper. The schools do not submit qualifications of professors and instructors nor the passing rate of the program on the National Licensure Examination for RN's in the Philippines (a true barometer of how good the school is per Philippine standards).
Second, nursing programs across the United States DO NOT require their students to complete a set number of first assist in the OR, umbilical cord stump dressing for newborns in the Nursery, nor performing actual birthing assistance to women who are delivering including cutting umbilical cords of newborns and making sure an intact placenta is delivered. These are specialty rotations in the US and are not part of the basic nursing program whether they are Associates or Bachelors. It is, however, required by the Philippine government through the Board of Nursing there and the Professional Regulation Commission which administers the licensure exam in the Philippines. You DO NOT graduate from your nursing program in the Philippines without completing the required number of OR, Nursery, and Labor and Delivery cases.
Third, nursing students across ALL nursing programs in the Philippines have concurrent clinical rotations with lecture. Level 2 is Maternal-Child Nursing and students do rotate in Mother-Baby Units and Peds Wards during Level 2. Level 3 is Med-Surg Nursing and Psych Nursing and students do rotate in Med-Surg wards and Psych wards during Level 3. Level 4 is Nursing Managament, Research, and Intensive Clinical Practicum. In addition, nursing programs in the Philippines provide Community Health Nursing lectures concurrent with placement for practicum in a community setting, something basic nursing programs do not offer in the US as a standard. Schools in the Philippines arrange ALL clinical rotations, the students do not seek out clinical sites.
The completion of OR, Nursery, and Labor and Delivery cases are NEVER concurrent with lectures. These requirements are above and beyond the clinical rotations that are already provided concurrently with lectures. There are many students in each nursing program and only a few students can be placed in the OR to first assist with an instructor supervising all day to finish the cases. There are only a certain number of deliveries that occur in a single hospital so students have to take take time away from their normal school schedule to be able to perform actual deliveries and care for the umbilical cord stump on the newborn on any single day. Some programs arrange these during the summer months when school is not in session.
The bottomline is if this rule stays as the "new" requirement in the State of California, only a very small amount of graduates from the Philippines, if any at all, will qualify to be licensed in California anymore. This move on California's part is not suprising. I see it as part of the weeding out of any more RN applicants who will further saturate the large number of nurses in the state who are struggling to find jobs. In a way, graduates from Philippine nursing programs lost due to a technicality the same way graduates of Excelsior nursing programs are not eligible to be licensed in California. It is painful (and upsetting) to accept for those affected but there are 49 other states that have not made the same decision.
0Oct 9, '14 by steppybayQuote from JujuBenteWas the rejection just from having to be placed on a wait list or was there other issues that made your application get turned down?I did apply and I got a rejection letter from Pierce college. They have a waiting list and a lottery.
Any indication on how many are on the wait list or how years it could take?
Was the lottery for just those needing to the deficiency courses or did it include those already enrolled students needing to take the same courses but not on a deficiency basis?
Were you able to find another school to re-take the deficient courses or still looking around?Last edit by steppybay on Oct 9, '14 : Reason: ++ info