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I was eligible to sit for the nclex for California.

Wow.. so I took my exam this September, went the distance all 265 questions. Unfortunately I didn't pass. Got my results and "near passing standard" all across the board so the news of failure basically tore me apart.

Now what makes it worse is after submitting the reapplication form and waiting for four weeks for a reply from the board, I get a letter today stating

:::: The Board has determined that the program you completed in the Philippines is not equivalent to the minimum requirements for licensure set forth in California Code Section 1426(d).

You may be able to view Section 1426 (d) and all other codes of the California Code of Regulations by going to our website at: www.rn.ca.gov. Once in the website there will be 'Tabs' at the top of the screen. Go to Regulations then to Nursing Practice Act and finally to California Code of Regulations.

California Code of Regulations Section 1426(d) states that theory and clinical practice shall be concurrent. The documents received state that some of the training was completed several semesters after the theory classes. ::::::

I email the evaluator in charge of my application and she explains ::::

You have options and that is to apply to the LVN Board or in another RN Board in a different state or go for your master's degree in nursing but in California you are not qualified as a RN without the Master's degree.

According to the RLE and the school's curriculum you should have completed the scrubs in NCM 101 and 102 but they were completed in NCM 104, 105 and 103. I am enclosing a copy of the letter that was sent to you yesterday.

I'm angry and sad at the same time. How is it possible that I was eligible to take the nclex the first time I applied and not eligible to retake now? I went from meeting the requirements of an RN to now meeting the requirements of an LVN. How is this possible?

They are saying I'm ineligible based on the dates of completion of my cases. The school requires 5 major, 5 minor, 5 assisted delivery, 5 actual delivery, and 5 cord dressing clinical cases which I completed or else I wouldn't have been able to graduate. All of a sudden Ca board is being technical about the completion dates of these cases. The school is well aware of the fact that completion of these cases is impossible to be concurrent with the theoretical classes. It is not always guaranteed that students will complete the needed cases in concurrent with the theoretical because there are times when there aren't any patients in the hospitals that we are rotated in. It is for this reason that the school allows completion of the needed cases through out the following semesters. We took the theoretical classes before we were allowed to go on our clinicals but the lack of patients made it difficult to complete those 5 cases during that semester. That's why some of my cases were completed one or two semesters after the theory classes.

Am I understanding this correctly? I thought all that matters was that my cases were complete regardless if it was completed in concurrent/along with theoretical or after theoretical. I learned what I was suppose to learn it just so happen that exposure to the actual thing came a semester later.

So now they are saying I can't sit for the nclex in California and I need to complete a masters degree to be qualified as an Rn in California. Is this possible? I went to school graduated with a BSN and in the end I'm told that I only qualify to be a LVN after submitting a reapplication for nclex. .

Clarification would be nice and I would appreciate any advice. This just makes me question if nursing is even the right fit for me cause it's been obstacles after obstacles.

pnay_doll: I think you will get rejected due to completing a case after graduation, the rules are you're suppose to complete all your cases BEFORE graduation.

I know:(.. But i have cases on my logbook that I did during my third year i didnt include some of it on the one i pass to Prc... Can i send a letter of explanation from school while processing to pass my additional cases there asking me..

I know:(.. But i have cases on my logbook that I did during my third year i didnt include some of it on the one i pass to Prc... Can i send a letter of explanation from school while processing to pass my additional cases there asking me..

You can try, you never know, but there have been someone else posting the same and was denied.

hi Melai12,

So what's with the #4 question? there's no distance learning in the Philippines right? so what are we gonna put in it? thanks!

hi holler4ever, were you able to apply for LVN? I spoke to my licensing analyst earlier and she said to send them a letter with 30 dollars for them to transfer a certified copy of our documents to LVN. She was actually very arrogant, spoke to her nicely and she told me whatever on the end of the phone call. Anyways best of luck to us!

This might be helpful information and I hope it helps as far as people with not enough clinical hours. I have a friend that is currently going to Sacramento States nursing program. This is her clinical hour break down for 2 yrs:Med-surg 90Mental health 90Advance med-serg 135Ob 90Peds 90Perceptorship 255Community health 90*total 840 for 2yrsHope that helps.. Good luck everyone!*

Hello everyone sorry to be the devils advocate but I'm in the same position as the rest of you all, this is from the CA BON website... read Section (d):1426.

Required Curriculum

(a) The curriculum of a nursing program shall be that set forth in this section, and shall be approved by the board. Any revised curriculum shall be approved by the board prior to its implementation.

(b) The curriculum shall reflect a unifying theme, which includes the nursing process as defined by the faculty, and shall be designed so that a student who completes the program will have the knowledge, skills, and abilities necessary to function in accordance with the registered nurse scope of practice as defined in code section 2725, and to meet minimum competency standards of a registered nurse.

© The curriculum shall consist of not less than fifty-eight (58) semester units, or eighty-seven (87) quarter units, which shall include at least the following number of units in the specified course areas:(1) Art and science of nursing, thirty-six (36) semester units or fifty-four (54) quarter units, of which eighteen (18) semester or twenty-seven (27) quarter units will be in theory and eighteen (18) semester or twenty-seven (27) quarter units will be in clinical practice.(2) Communication skills, six (6) semester or nine (9) quarter units. Communication skills shall include principles of oral, written, and group communication.(3) Related natural sciences (anatomy, physiology, and microbiology courses with labs), behavioral and social sciences, sixteen (16) semester or twenty-four (24) quarter units.

(d) Theory and clinical practice shall be concurrent in the following nursing areas: geriatrics, medical-surgical, mental health/psychiatric nursing, obstetrics, and pediatrics. Instructional outcomes will focus on delivering safe, therapeutic, effective, patient-centered care; practicing evidence-based practice; working as part of interdisciplinary teams; focusing on quality improvement; and using information technology. Instructional content shall include, but is not limited to, the following: critical thinking, personal hygiene, patient protection and safety, pain management, human sexuality, client abuse, cultural diversity, nutrition (including therapeutic aspects), pharmacology, patient advocacy, legal, social and ethical aspects of nursing, and nursing leadership and management.

(e) The following shall be integrated throughout the entire nursing curriculum:(1) The nursing process;(2) Basic intervention skills in preventive, remedial, supportive, and rehabilitative nursing;(3) Physical, behavioral, and social aspects of human development from birth through all age levels;(4) Knowledge and skills required to develop collegial relationships with health care providers from other disciplines;(5) Communication skills including principles of oral, written, and group communications;(6) Natural science, including human anatomy, physiology, and microbiology; and(7) Related behavioral and social sciences with emphasis on societal and cultural patterns, human development, and behavior relevant to health-illness.

(f) The program shall have tools to evaluate a student's academic progress, performance, and clinical learning experiences that are directly related to course objectives.

(g) The course of instruction shall be presented in semester or quarter units or the equivalent under the following formula:(1) One (1) hour of instruction in theory each week throughout a semester or quarter equals one (1) unit.(2) Three (3) hours of clinical practice each week throughout a semester or quarter equals one (1) unit. With the exception of an initial nursing course that teaches basic nursing skills in a skills lab, 75% of clinical hours in a course must be in direct patient care in an area specified in section 1426(d) in a board-approved clinical setting.Note: Authority cited: Sections 2715 and 2786.6, Business and Professions Cod. Reference: Sections 2785-2788, Business and Professions Code.HISTORY1. Amendment of subsection (d) filed 4-27-87; operative 5-27-87 (Register 87, No. 18).2. Amendment of section heading and section filed 9-21-2010; operative 10-21- 2010 (Register 2010, No. 39).

This might be helpful information and I hope it helps as far as people with not enough clinical hours. I have a friend that is currently going to Sacramento States nursing program. This is her clinical hour break down for 2 yrs:Med-surg 90Mental health 90Advance med-serg 135Ob 90Peds 90Perceptorship 255Community health 90*total 840 for 2yrsHope that helps.. Good luck everyone!*

That's good news!

But could you elaborate a bit more if you can? I am confused because you mention "2 years".

-- Is she enrolled in the complete nursing program or able to just take those needed courses?

-- Was this of recent enrollment?

-- The approx. cost to attend?

Thanks again!

hi! same here.. gonna pass my requirements this coming May.

I hope you get your ATT! Goodluck!!

Did you get your ATT? You would be so lucky!!

The best way too do is apply in diff. State ... My husband got his ATT from Hawaii board all u need to do apply for CGfNS and just do CES... Once it done and if it's comparable for BSN in US that's mean you don't have to worry at all!

I got my eligibility in new mexico. No toefl or ielts.

I got my eligibility in new mexico. No toefl or ielts.

Hello Bsnjojo .. What country did you graduate? Coz i check new mexico Bon website their requiring toefl or ielts for international grad..

The best way too do is apply in diff. State ... My husband got his ATT from Hawaii board all u need to do apply for CGfNS and just do CES... Once it done and if it's comparable for BSN in US that's mean you don't have to worry at all!

That's great! Too bad, it can't be transferred to get a CA license :-(

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