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- Feb 13, '12 by jhenehQuote from BsnjojoWas it your first time applying?I recieved a letter requiring me to go back to school to do my ob and med surg again. And given me 3 yrs to comply.
- Feb 13, '12 by sallyp911Quote from BsnjojoYou could try, I'm trying to help a PH friend in coming over as a new grad, but we feel it's a lost cause. You'll be fighting for years in court and with a possible rejection, since you're trying to short-circuit an existing requirement that's been in the rules for years.Guys do you think were being descriminated? If yes. Is it worth fighting for our rights or just go with the flow and move on?
It was only relaxed after the nursing shortage of several years ago and now even US educated grads are having a 50% chance of being hired and that's for BSN's and several hospitals are hiring locals only (locals in the sense the degree is from CA).
Even those US educated ones that graduated from Excelsior College (USA) can NO longer get their licenses renewed, even after being an RN for years!
I think that Excelsior also had the same issues with their classes and clinicals not being done at the same time. Those who graduated after 2006 from Excelsior can not even apply for their license any more! I know my sister-in-law (born and raised in sunny CA) is looking to take a HUGH drop in pay to work at a nursing home. Unless she wants to go back to school at an accredited accepted school....no more on-line courses or places that are not fully accredited.
Do the research here by putting in "Excelsior" in CA. Past Excelsior graduates even had a petition going and tried to fight it in the courts since 2006 and still the same answer.....not going to happen. That's why I said, you can try to fight it, but spending a ton of money for lawyers, dragging thru the courts, years later, you're only going to keep the lawyers employed.
Even ALL Excelsior graduates from across the USA is NOT eligible to take the RN board exam, they too must also re-take classes that are accepted by the CA BON. Those already working RN's in other states and graduated from Excelsior will not get to take the exam nor are they able to endorse their out of state licenses to CA, unless you graduated before 2006.
So that's why I say you can try to fight this, but the reality is, any new grads from PH will not be working in CA for a while. Even with family and friend's connections, since there's no way to get your CA license. Plus if you read the CA nursing forum, you'll be competing with 1,000's up to 3,000 local new grads applicants, going after 10-30 job openings. I'm sure they will be a few that's able to get in somehow.
I'm trying to console my friend in the PH, but I can hear in her voice and e-mails, she's really depressed and sadden.Last edit by sallyp911 on Feb 13, '12 : Reason: spelling
- Feb 14, '12 by cassy25I have the same situation and I think that our school should fix our problem because its not our fault if we didnt finished the cases in one semester. We're just following what the school gave us. Sadly I'm trying to reach my school and ask for help but they didnt respond. Filipino nurses should be aware about this situation because many filipino immigrants or citizens went to Philippines to take up nursing there because its cheaper. But now, I think they have to know that its not good now to take up nursing in the Philippines specially if your school doesnt care about you once you graduated.
- Feb 14, '12 by greenjungleCA is very difficult for PH graduates. The nursing demand must be on the way out, with so many RNs joining the workforce.
- Feb 14, '12 by kakayCassy is right, we have to knock our Universities to let them know what's going on, so in that case our Schools/Universities can address this matter to Commission on Higher Education (Department of Nursing) that to be able to sit for Nclex our cases should be completed on same time manner with the theory (NCM), not only that the number of Hours in every major subject like MS,OB, PSYCH, and so on... so they can do something for those who still studying Nursing in our Country and also for us (hoping) .. in that case there will be no reason for newly grads to suffer like this having a rejection from CABRN... I'm still on the process of Re-apply for NCLEX if they didn't let me i will surely ask for the standard curriculum of CA for Nursing, so i can see what I'am lacking for, and also to present this to my University which i got my BSN degree.. but to enroll those subject that's totally pain in the A**... I would rather apply in other state than to comply with their requirements w/o showing me the real deal... I was able to take my exam last yr w/ a lot of requirements as they requested, and now what?!?! are they calling it rules/policy or should i say MAGIC only for Filipinos? Am i stating it RIGHT?
- Feb 14, '12 by sallyp911http://www.rn.ca.gov/pdfs/forms/forecasts2011.pdf
It's only getting tougher soon, with more US new grads (in CA) getting their degrees soon and with many of their already graduated classmates who are still looking for just their first interview, with some after almost a year of looking and getting their rejection emails or calls.
I know I'm still waiting for my first job offer! I have been on a few interviews and amazing to see 20 applicants in the same room, knowing that they are interviewing 4-5 other sets of people that day for a few days for 2-3 positions, the exact same jobs! Mind you, I have tons of volunteer work, great references, 3.68 overall GPA, BSN.
Some of my own classmates graduated 18 months ago are still unemployed and to qualify for most new grads in CA, you can only apply if you are within 12 months from your graduation date and have from NO to less than one year of RN paid experience.
You can see the irony we face as US CA new grads, we can't get a regular RN job without 1-2 years of experience, but if you have too much time in, your application will get rejected too.
Like in the PH, we too see those ads in the TV and internet ads of the nursing shortages and strong demand for nurses. But these advertisers are playing us since those schools are very expensive as they are more like diploma mills. I went to a regular college unlike some of my friends who went with the pricey easy to get into schools, but hard to get a job as those degrees are a joke.
- Feb 14, '12 by sallyp911Oh, I wanted to clarify that to apply for a CA new grad position for the majority of the better known and traditional bedside hospital nursing jobs is 12 months from your school's graduation date, NOT from the time you pass the NCLEX exam.
In many cases of the application process, you need to show on your resume that you also are in possession of your RN license (month and date passed).
So we have the added pressures to apply to all these jobs as quickly as possible, luckily, most hospitals have at least two open application dates within the year's time frame. They do look closely (HR and hiring staff) at your graduation dates, as many of my friends tried anyways to apply after their 12th month, only to get the rejection letter or dreaded notification or no contact at all.Last edit by sallyp911 on Feb 14, '12 : Reason: added info
- Feb 18, '12 by jpinay28Were all trying to be a RN.. But this rules keep pushing us down.. 😭
- Feb 19, '12 by ratnik13applied for NCLEX-RN april 2011 and received more and more requirements until the school has sent their last requests regarding these clinical rotations,calendar,class shedules from 1st to 4th yr,student's handbook,etc..and just last week i received a rejection letter.i still don't get it why we're not eligible knowing that others made it..it's really frustating.my two other friends from sam eschool is going through the same situation as well as their friends,should we complain about this?just asking though
- Feb 19, '12 by ratnik13so how's your application going in NY?planning to move too but hesitant coz they might also consider CABON policy