Credibility of Walden University

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Mark Hill BSN

192 Posts

Specializes in Certified Family Nurse Practitioner.
You continue to overstep your position as a student trying to speak for practicing NPs.

I never once tried to speak for practicing NPs (look back at the conversation)....and YOU continue to make NO sense, as usual!

Mark Hill BSN

192 Posts

Specializes in Certified Family Nurse Practitioner.

Juan,

Bigot - a person who is obstinately, and intolerably devoted to his own opinions or prejudices, especially with regard to people of a group...Marriam-Webster.

You "opinion" of Walden, as I have numerously pointed out, amounts to NOTING. You can "blame" anyone you like, they wont care I assure you.

No one cares whether you would attend Walden or not, and I never said I didn't get into my state university, I said I was placed on a waiting list that would set me a year behind.

You are so rooted in your bigotry, the you don't even see the wrong in it, and find any justification for it. Even then, you still have no PROOF that Walden's educations is inferior. All you really have is your biased, bigoted, and unfounded OPINION! That and a dollar might get you Snickers bar.

You are correct sir, there are no graduates of Walden's FNP program. Knowing that, why don't you wait and form your opinions about the quality of the program after the fact instead of before? You cant, because you already have a negative preconception and your bigotry wont let your sensibilities believe otherwise.

I have never suggested that Walden would come out on top of any list. All I have said is that if you don't know anything about Walden, its curriculum, or the quality of its graduates then maybe you should keep your comments focused on things you DO know about.

The irony is, there is not a university within 100 miles of me which will be even in the top 100 of any category anywhere. Does that mean that us dumb, lowly southern folk should just stop trying to get our ejamication if we cant attend a top tear school?

My opinion is, I don't care what you think about Walden, but if I see you besmirching my school to others on this site, I will call you out on you unfounded, unsubstantiated, and ,yes, bigoted generalizations. So DEAL WITH THAT!

allnurses Guide

BostonFNP, APRN

2 Articles; 5,581 Posts

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
I never once tried to speak for practicing NPs (look back at the conversation)....and YOU continue to make NO sense as usual![/quote']

What does your profile list as your education? Your speciality?

Mark Hill BSN

192 Posts

Specializes in Certified Family Nurse Practitioner.
I don't mean to put words in BostonFNP's mouth and I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong, but I believe what s/he means is that students, being new to whatever they're studying (in this case, FNP preparation) are rarely in a position to realistically evaluate the quality of the education they're receiving, simply because they are new to the field and have nothing to which to compare their current experience. Experienced FNPs, on the other hand, may have signficant experience with graduates of a wide range of programs, and have legitimate bases on which to formulate opinions.

I you will read the post, I never claimed to be able to comment generally on the preparation of NPs....I simply stated that I am in a better position to comment on the preparation of NPs at WALDEN UNIVERSITY SINCE I AM CURRENTLY ATTENDING, AND JUAN HAS NEVER ATTENDED.

I a not sure how this is getting so misconstrued....... I (as in me), feel I am in a better position to comment on the preparation of NPs at Walden University than Juan (as in him). Simply because I have attended Walden University, and HE has not!....WOW?

Mark Hill BSN

192 Posts

Specializes in Certified Family Nurse Practitioner.
What does your profile list as your education? Your speciality?

What are you talking about?

Mark Hill BSN

192 Posts

Specializes in Certified Family Nurse Practitioner.

Why am I wasting my time trying to convert bigots....I have much better things to do!

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Corey Narry, MSN, RN, NP

8 Articles; 4,362 Posts

Specializes in ACNP-BC, Adult Critical Care, Cardiology.

Bigot - a person who is obstinately, and intolerably devoted to his own opinions or prejudices, especially with regard to people of a group...Marriam-Webster.

Thanks for chopping up Merriam-Webster's definition to suit your agenda. The full definition of the word based on your source:

a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

I'm certainly not a bigot but that's not even the point. You used "Academic Bigot" as a label, explain that phrase to me because that is a totally nebulous concept to me.

The irony is, there is not a university within 100 miles of me which will be even in the top 100 of any category anywhere. Does that mean that us dumb, lowly southern folk should just stop trying to get our ejamication if we cant attend a top tear school?

What is the point in writing this statement other than to personalize the entire issue with you as the central focus? Frankly, I don't really care either where you go to school but don't play the entire oppressed "dumb, lowly Southern folk" routine and drag it around as if this is even a social class issue. I am respectfully backing down from this conversation. Have a good day.

allnurses Guide

BostonFNP, APRN

2 Articles; 5,581 Posts

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
What are you talking about?

If you don't know what I am taking about then why did you change it to say "family Nurse practitioner school" instead of the original "family nurse practitioner"?

Why is Mark so defensive and angry?

Specializes in Anesthesia, Pain, Emergency Medicine.

Nobody cares what school you attend.

Become a NP first before you make statements that are simply not true.

Its not a matter of a program's actual quality. I'm sure there are great quality all online programs from non-profit schools. Its a matter of perception of quality by decision makers. Whats very important in terms of jobs and professional respect is whether hospitals, institutions, managers, doctor/administrators and ultimately-patient/clients think (or don't think) online NP programs are high quality professional programs. I think mostly this is d/t the lack of good quality controls and high standards in allowing who can offer these NP programs online (or any nursing program online). It is well known that to be an MD in the USA, everyone MUST go through rigorous post grad education, 4 years of residency and often more years of specialized fellowship, etc. The educational requirements for NPs are so divergent from state to state, school to school. We should at least have some sort of national standard of what it takes to be an NP and be a board certified NP.
Specializes in FNP, ONP.

Good grief. I think there needs to be an ICD-9/10 code for "acute lorazepam deficiency." Who's with me?

Over 30 for profit education groups, including Laureate Education Inc.(Walden), The Apollo Group (UoP), and the Capella Education Company, Kaplan Higher Education (which is owned by the Washington Post Company), DeVry and the chain called Art Institutes of _____ (not to be confused with The School of the Art Institute of Chicago, probably one of two or three greatest fine art conservatories in the country) are all under ongoing investigation by the GAO, Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, chairman of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions, and the DOJ for fraud. Not for defrauding students, for defrauding the federal government out of student loan dollars.

Can one obtain a decent NP education there? Well I guess that remains to be seen. Good luck to the inaugural class on their licensing exams. The school has a lot riding on you.

Is Walden credible? Well, how are we defining "credible?" I know how the dictionary defines it, how about socially? Laureate (Walden) settled a $100 million lawsuit about 10 years ago for enrolling homeless people and helping them obtain federal student loans. Personally, I'd be embarrassed as hell to tell people at a cocktail party my kids attended Walden. So, yeah, I'd say that represents a serious social credibility issue.

But I won't just single out Walden. None of the others on the list is any better; In my opinion they are all an embarrassment to higher education and should be closed. I doubt they will be. What is more likely is that they will become ineligible for federal student loan funds, which in the long run will have the same effect. Good riddance.

That is just an opinion. I have always said, in person and on this forum, attend the finest school that will accept you. Education is the best investment you can make in yourself and in your own future. Speaking for myself, for my own family, we opt for the best education money can buy, always, beginning in the toddler years, lo, and going all the way through graduate and professional school. We are fortunate in that we don't have to borrow money to afford it, but even if I had to, I would. It is that important. Other people have to make the choices that are best for them in their own circumstances, and I don't judge their choices. However, in threads such as this, when asked for a frank opinion I will give it, and frankly it is poor form indeed to insult someone else's opinion.

SaraStrong

105 Posts

Whoa, that escalated quickly.

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