1 year= NP? And programs with this? - page 2
Any 1 year full time NP programs that allow you to become and NP in a year.........I know of Vandy. Are any of these online with clinicals that you can set up in your hometown?... Read More
Nov 26, '07I know University of Miami has a 1 year FNP program for those with BSN. It's every day classes and clinicals, not online so far as I know.
Nov 29, '07I graduated from a 1 year ACNP program at Vanderbilt. I had 10 years experience as an ICU nurse before beginning.
I can promise you that I completed the same content, took the same exams, accrued the same amount of required clinical hours and completed the same boards as those who did the same program over two years.
I entered my NP career the same as I entered my RN career, an educated novice. With every day my knowledge grows. I by no means thought I knew everything when I received my diploma. I find my practice a continual educational experience.
Nov 29, '07Quote from Lorelai22RNVanderbilt has several specialties that you can do in a distance format and have clinicals set up wherever. Pediatrics, neonatal, psych, maybe women's health(?). As a graduate of the Peds NP program, I have to agree with another poster that 1 year was a bit of a rush. On the other hand, clinicals and your experience are what you make of them.Any 1 year full time NP programs that allow you to become and NP in a year.........I know of Vandy. Are any of these online with clinicals that you can set up in your hometown?
Nov 29, '07Quote from caldjeThen I'll go to school part-time and take 1/2 the part-time load each semester. That will take me 4 years to complete a 2 year part-time program. That must make me a REALLY good practitioner.If you reread my post you will see what I was talking about doesn't really have anything to do with what you are saying. I was simply stating I wouldn't want to been seen by, or employ an NP who couldn't even stand the thought of two years of education and searched down a one year program. They obviously aren't looking for the best education, just the fastest.
p.s.- time does matter. repetition is necessary for retention and there is a limited amount of time in every day.
David's point is, you're covering the same material and the same amount of time. If a 2 year FT program can be done in 3 years part-time, it's still the same program. Conversely, if you get rid of everything else going on in your life and go REALLY full-time (ie 40 hours/week or more of class/clinicals) and compress that 2 year program into 1 year, it's STILL the same program.
I agree that more years in practice before will probably make you a better practitioner, but the amount of time it takes you to complete a program (as long as the content and clinical time is the same) is irrelevant.
Nov 30, '07I guess people learn differently. I need time to absorb content and make it my own. Sure, I can read and understand but it won't stick long term or be readibly accessible to me if I cram too much info into too short a time. I transferred schools from the semester system to the quarter system and really disliked quarters. The class was practically over just as I was really sinking my teeth in. It was great for classes I just wanted to get done with but it wasn't a good system for me in regard to material I really wanted to MASTER, as opposed to just be exposed to before quickly moving on and figuring that I'd learn what I really needed to know on the job. Still, I know other's learn differently. It's a challenge for educational programs to meet the needs of the various students while trying to ensure standard method of content and evaluation of competency.
Nov 30, '07Quote from jjjoyThat's very true. Sometimes I think it takes me time to absorb stuff, but if I was in a position to do a 1 year program (I'm not!), I think that I could do it. I'd just have to be very dedicated and focused. Different strokes. That's one thing I like about graduate nursing education (as opposed to med school or PA school), it gives the options. I don't think there is only one way to do it...I guess people learn differently.
Nov 30, '07Quote from bryanboling5Then I'll go to school part-time and take 1/2 the part-time load each semester. That will take me 4 years to complete a 2 year part-time program. That must make me a REALLY good practitioner.
So why not go 80 hours a week and make it a 6 month long program? Would you still think that was "the same program?" In fact, I should start that program. I'd probably get rich.
There is TOO MUCH information to learn to be competent in family practice than could possibly be retained in one year's time. You are supposedly putting out INDEPENDENT primary care providers on the very day of graduation. No residency, no nothing. Its not right and it can't be safe.
The only way I can see it working is in the way a previous poster did it. 10 years ICU experience and 1 year ACNP. I have no doubt that person is great at what they do.Last edit by caldje on Nov 30, '07
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i couldn't keep quiet anymore... *lol*
i understand and can appreciate what everyone is saying. however, i think the key is content - not time. my experience: i chose to commute 4.5 hrs each week for 1.5 years to finish as opposed to staying home and doing the 3 yr program there. the reason the home program was 3 years was not because you are getting more content. they don't offer all of the courses every semester. the program i will complete on monday involved a lot of dedication on my part... i doubled up on semester hours for the core classes... and had to drive 4.5 hrs nearly every week for a year and a half. it was my choice.
the way that it worked: i started the core curriculum (6 courses) in the summer 2006, finished the remaining core courses fall 2006 and started the practicuum (where we have clinical hour requirements/lectures every week) in january 2007. most people that do my program take 2-3 years to do it... and its because of the core classes, not the actual program. the acnp program is one year... the fnp program is 1 year and a semester.
overall, i think that before we start making judgements on whether or not a 1 year program is appropriate in producing competent midlevels, we need to look at the actual program. does it include the core classes? is it simply clinically based? i think its important to note that there is such a variety in how schools set up their programs that to put a number on the "appropriate" length of time is irrelevant. i do agree that there shouldn't be an "easy way out" or anything like that, but i don't think its reasonable to say that students that complete a program in 1 yr cannot be as competent as those that take 3 years to do so. i must also say though, i do not think that its possible to get a good education if you are doing all your core classes on top of the specific program in 1 year. i dont even think most schools will let you start your clinical portion until you have done the core... again, each school is different.
as for being fully competent on the day of graduation... really? i finish on monday and will have completed over 650-700 hours (? - and i know this is less than many pa programs, so i'm not making a comparison there)... but i know a great deal and have done very well in my clinical rotations and program overall, but i wouldn't say, "i am capable of being completely independent." like kristie... i think that its an ongoing learning process and dont think that any prudent employer would expect a brand new grad to function at max competency/independence on the first day.
Last edit by DaisyRN, ACNP on Nov 30, '07