Two VERY low ball job offers in the last month...(management and leadership!) - page 2
Ok, a little background. I have my background in management which is what I did before I became a nurse. I now have five years nursing experience as well as my ASN, BSN, and my MSN. I have been interviewing for jobs in... Read More
- 8Mar 14, '13 by HippyDippyLPNDon't blame newbie nurses for taking lower pay just because you have been insulted by two companies. There are too many nurses and not enough jobs as I am sure you know and many of us have babies and houses to support so $17/hour is better than $7.95 down the road at McDonald's.
- 5Mar 14, '13 by applewhiternThis is why I have never had any desire to be anything but a staff nurse. I have an accounting and business administration degree. I was told many times during nursing school that I could make more money as a staff nurse, plus not have to deal with the increased responsibility of management. I don't want to work 5 days per week; I want to do my shift and go home and forget about it. All I can say is counter offer.
- 2Mar 14, '13 by prnqdayI totally agree. Well said. OP, I'm not sure where you live but I don't know any new grad that makes "17-18/hr. Please don't be offended that some of us with ADNs make MORE than you. Five years is great experience but not sure if they would quailify you for more money. There are others with way more experience than you making what you were offered.
So my advice, is to take it or leave it.Quote from HippyDippyLPNDon't blame newbie nurses for taking lower pay just because you have been insulted by two companies. There are too many nurses and not enough jobs as I am sure you know and many of us have babies and houses to support so $17/hour is better than $7.95 down the road at McDonald's.
- 1Mar 14, '13 by JillyRNI agree with HippyDippy completely. With the current market, very few nurses are even in the position to negotiate salary. As a new grad in a highly saturated area with a high cost of living, I had no choice but to take a very low paying new grad position. I've been an RN almost 3 years now, and I don't expect to be demanding a six figure wage anytime in the next two years.
- 2Mar 14, '13 by Nurse_, BSN, RNI'm in California. I have to say that there's merit to what the OP says about new grad pay, though I don't believe that it is under the New Grad's control to negotiate.
It's Economy 101: high supply, low demand = low $ | high demand, low suppyy = HIGH $$$
New Grad Super users in California: $17 - 20/hr
New Grad RN Centinela: $23-25
New Grad RN CHLA: $26-30
New Grad RN Orange County: $24-29
New Grad RN Los Angeles County: $23-31
It is a low ball offer. Being a DON is a very big responsibility, just doing the paperworks necessary to keep the facility running is headache enough. Red tape after red tape, DONs not only have to maintain the standards of the facility but also their employees. They have to make sure that in-services are up-to-date, that all the titles are covered, that the proper papers have been faxed, so yes... it is a low offer.
Do you have a choice? Yes! Renegotiate or walk away.
It is a sad reality that's why when I read things like job offers and being picky about the shift... it kinda irks me a little. There's a lot of nurses who are stagnant right now and here are some who have a choice but choose to nitpick about it.
- 5Mar 14, '13 by CapeCodMermaid, RNDo you have experience as a DON or ADON? If not why would you expect to make as much as an experienced DON? And please don't tell people they shouldn't accept a jo. For $17 or $18 an hour. That may well be the only job they can get.
- 5Mar 15, '13 by Esme12, BSN, RN Senior ModeratorWell... the plan by big business and hospitals (which is big business) of glutting the market with the promise of unlimited jobs and great pay has worked in placing nursing back 20 years. I knew this would happen.
- 1Mar 15, '13 by 07302003I've found that unless your previous work experience was *in nursing*, those who hire don't count it as experience. So they're looking at you as having no management experience. So you may have to take a more entry level management salary to get nursing management experience. But, if you decide you want to do that, I'd make sure to get hired in somewhere with growth potential, like one of the big hospital systems. Just my 2 cents.