Young, Thin, and Cute New Hires

The management at my place of employment recently hired a group of nurses who are all youngish, slim, and physically attractive as a response to declining patient satisfaction scores. Is the solution working? We can only wait and see. Nurses Relations Article

My workplace, a freestanding specialty hospital owned by a for-profit corporation that operates multiple facilities across the United States, has been having recent troubles with low Press Ganey patient satisfaction scores. This does not bode well in an era where patient satisfaction scores are tied to Medicare reimbursement rates.

Patients typically complain on the survey forms about random issues such as the food, the semiprivate rooms, their loud roommates, and the aloof manner of some of the physicians. Some mention that nursing staff failed to keep them informed. Once in a blue moon a patient comments that the hospital employs too many 'foreign nurses' or has staff who cannot 'speak English.' Whatever.

To combat the chronically low patient satisfaction scores, the managerial staff implemented a mix of interventions which they believed would make patients and families feel more 'cared for.' Hourly rounds, bedside rounding at the change of shift, more scripting, and more smiles have been put into action without much positive effect on the Press Ganey scores.

"What was management's next solution?" you're probably wondering. Administration announced they were hiring good people who were more friendly, skilled, positive, and indicated during their interviews that they actually wanted to care for patients. Well, the latest new hires have initiated more questions than answers.

Where do I start? They are all youngish, ranging from early 20s to early 30s. They are all fairly slim, nicely shaped, and physically attractive. The most experienced new hire has about six years of nursing experience, while the remaining nurses have anywhere from one to three years under their belts. The majority have no acute care experience and are learning certain procedural skills for the very first time: starting peripheral IV access, administering blood, performing wound care, operating feeding tube pumps, and so forth.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not an 'old nurse' who is 'eating the young.' I am 32 years old with seven years of experience, and I had no acute care experience prior to taking a job at this facility several years ago. The new hires all have good personalities and are seemingly pleasant to work with. In addition, we all must start somewhere.

However, they are not necessarily more skilled or more eager to care for patients like management said they would be. Several of these nurses remain seated at the nurses station while staring into a smart phone as call lights are ringing. A few walk into patient rooms without employing basic relational skills such as knocking, introducing themselves, or explaining what they are planning to do. I'm not complaining; I'm merely observing.

Here are my thoughts on this issue. Rather than hire a mix of highly experienced and relatively inexperienced nurses, the managerial staff opted to save on labor costs by hiring younger nurses with a certain attractive look that patients and families might find appealing. They hired no new grads because, I assume, they did not want to spend the staggering amount of money on 3-month orientation periods. They hired no one with 15, 20, 25, or 30+ years of experience because human resources would be forced to offer highly experienced nurses a significantly higher rate of pay per the wage grid. They hired no nurses who were badly overweight, gray-haired, or outwardly appeared to have health problems that would drive up insurance costs. To presumably get the most bang for their buck, most of the new hires have between one and three years of experience.

How is this experiment turning out? We shall wait and see.

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Specializes in Med/surg, Quality & Risk.

The patients may not understand that more than two years of experience makes a more capable nurse, but you should. Two years is just about long enough to become comfortable in your job, and to think that you know everything, but not long enough to realize how very little you do know. It's a very dangerous time in a nurse's career. They're being asked to precept and to run charge, so they think they're all that. And they aren't yet. They've been identified as nurses who have potential to become great nurses, but not enough experience to be there yet.

I SO agree. I just hit two years of experience, am often charge on days, and I cringe every time another nurse asks me a "this is what my patient is doing, what would you do in this situation" question. Even people with YEARS of experience approach me with this stuff. I'm fortunate that I love to read things, have read most of our policies and know where to look for what I don't know,as far as policy goes. As far as questions re: "I'm afraid my patient is going downhill, I've called the doctor 3 times," I mean, I really can't help them. If they have that much experience, the only reason they're asking me is so they can add "charge nurse aware" to their notes. My only answer to them is usually to make sure calling the doctor 3 times is documented NOW, BEFORE the patient goes down the drain.

I was also wanting to tell jenni811 that being a charge nurse makes you no one's "superior." Possibly the opposite, since you may not have realized yet that you're both a sucker and a potential scapegoat. WHY do these people think they're needed as charge? I've got nurses with 15-30 years of experience on my floor that REFUSE to be charge!! Think maybe they've been burnt already?

Been reading this thread and I must have to say that out of all the posters ESME12 hit the nail right on the head. ESME12, I think I love you. I'm 24 and ambitious. I have a couple certs but by no means am I just as competent as a nurse with 25 plus years of experience. I just wish employers realized that more experienced nurses are very well needed to train us newer nurses. Yes it is cheaper to hire a nurse with less experience however they will not last if not given adequate orientation.

My heart breaks for middle aged nurses who are experienced and unexperienced in nursing because no matter what people are always going to sterotype.

Specializes in Public Health, L&D, NICU.
In that case, your OP is even worse than I imagined. No new grads? Sounds like a terrible, anti-education, anti-teaching facility to me. Is this in the boonies of Wyoming or something?

At any rate, it sounds like your facility is going for the next best thing to new grads: young people with little experience and very open minds. Congratulations to them on doing something right. :dead:

One of the best hospitals I ever had the privilege to work at was in the boonies of Wyoming. Amazing patient care, great committed nurses, supportive administration.

Specializes in Critical Care, Float Pool Nursing.
But if a new, cute nurse writes a post about how she disagrees with her nursing unit hiring a bunch of older, ugly nurses, she would be crucified.

Its rather immature to write a long post obviously biased against new nurses and then state afterward you weren't meaning to be offensive.

Every nurse can bring something to the table that is new and exciting. Even 24 year olds.

Very true. Just reverse the adjectives in the title of this silly thread: "Old, fat, and Ugly New Hires" and just watch the outrage explode from the nurses who identify with that. I think that tells us whom the bias (and jealousy) is truly against.

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
Very true. Just reverse the adjectives in the title of this silly thread: "Old, fat, and Ugly New Hires" and just watch the outrage explode from the nurses who identify with that. I think that tells us whom the bias (and jealousy) is truly against.
It is silly of you to stereotype all 'older' nurses as fat and ugly. Please show more respect for the nurses who are old enough to be our mothers, for their life experiences are invaluable.
Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
Something to mention that many new grads (with the exception of second career nurses) have not developed is life skills. Not ALL, but many....before I get flamed....because this comes with living on your own for a while, working various jobs, and developing a solid sense of yourself. This occurs through time and experience. You just don't know at 23 what you know at 40. However, new grads bring an energy to the unit and they've learned the latest in EBP. We learn from each other, and if a unit hopes to thrive, a mix of new grads and seasoned nurses is beneficial. Quite honestly, all the infighting does nothing positive for the profession.

This is so true. The thing is, it's a conundrum sort of like needing a year of experience to get a job when nobody will hire you without experience. Accepting the value of experience when you have none requires a leap of faith. I figure those who are discounting it because they have no experience themselves just aren't as astute as they proclaim they are. I'm just glad I had the good sense to keep eyes and ears open and mouth shut when I had no experience.

It does not mean younger, newer people have nothing to contribute! Of course they do! Diversity in most things makes us a stronger whole. There are just times when it's prudent to defer hopping on your soapbox to tell experienced people what's what. For your sake. We've made our mistakes in that regard already.

Specializes in LTC Rehab Med/Surg.
It is silly of you to stereotype all 'older' nurses as fat and ugly. Please show more respect for the nurses who are old enough to be our mothers, for their life experiences are invaluable.

I think RNdynamic simply thinks old is ugly, as does most of society. They can't see past the wrinkles, and the thinning hair, to view the depth, strength and character.

Therein lies the problem

Specializes in Critical Care, Float Pool Nursing.

What are your basing your perception on?

Specializes in Critical Care, Float Pool Nursing.
It is silly of you to stereotype all 'older' nurses as fat and ugly. Please show more respect for the nurses who are old enough to be our mothers, for their life experiences are invaluable.

Commuter, try to follow what's going on. That was my point. All I did was take your thread title and insert opposite adjectives to the stereotypical ones that your title included. If it's wrong in one situation, then it's wrong in all situations. By saying it's silly of me to stereotype by mirroring your very own thread, you're sort of negating all of what you originally said.

You may want to go back and reevaluate your intention in starting this thread, and then come to terms with your own biases and prejudices. That's something you're supposed to learn pretty early on in nursing school. :alien:

Commuter, try to follow what's going on. That was my point. All I did was take your thread title and insert opposite adjectives to the stereotypical ones that your title included. If it's wrong in one situation, then it's wrong in all situations. By saying it's silly of me to stereotype by mirroring your very own thread, you're sort of negating all of what you originally said.

You may want to go back and reevaluate your intention in starting this thread, and then come to terms with your own biases and prejudices. That's something you're supposed to learn pretty early on in nursing school. :alien:

Uh oh...............

(hiding behind couch)

mc3:cat:

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
Uh oh...............

(hiding behind couch)

mc3:cat:

No need to hide behind the virtual couch, mc3. I'm not taking the bait of one who has not learned to skip threads with controversial subject matter. :up:

Seriously, no one is twisting anyone's arm and making anybody take offense. No one is forcing a couple of individuals to read this thread. If one dislikes the subject matter, perhaps it is time to move onto another thread filled with the Pollyannas, 'Yes-people,' and phonies who will tell you everything you want to hear.

No need to hide behind the virtual couch, mc3. I'm not taking the bait of one who has not learned to skip threads with controversial subject matter. :up:

Seriously, no one is twisting anyone's arm and making anybody take offense. No one is forcing a couple of individuals to read this thread. If one dislikes the subject matter, perhaps it is time to move onto another thread filled with the Pollyannas, 'Yes-people,' and phonies who will tell you everything you want to hear.

One thing I like about you, Commuter, is you always take the high road....:yes: I wasn't so much worried about you as I was about the OP!!

mc3 :cat: