Why is it always "Fire the nurse" - page 2

I understand that when things go not as expected, or people don't feel they got the care they deserve, they have a right to be upset. If it was due to a mistake a nurse made, I understand feeling it... Read More

  1. Visit  Simply Complicated} profile page
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    Quote from Esme12
    Because we are expendable and easily replaced when someone wants satisfaction. Because we are the least respected and disposable. We are the quickest, easiest, cheapest solution when someone is demanding a head on the platter. We cost the hospital money everytime we are paid. We don't bring in any direct revenue and our services are not directly billable.

    So when the time comes to place someone's head on a platter......we are the first thrown under the bus. As long as we continue to argue amongst ourselves we will have a difficult time gaining the respect we deserve.

    This particular situation seems to be missing key information. Why did the patient keep getting checked. What was the symptom that prompted her to keep getting checked. For the "senior nurse" to be finally called to the bedside I would assume sometime had passed and she very possibly progressed to 10.......the constant stimultion from frequent checking I would think help move things along. It has been my personal experience that when it comes time to deliver there is this sense of suprise and urgency that amused me even in labor.......like they didn't think a baby would be born eventually. The first time I delivered I think they thought at first I was hysterical bacause I bust out laughing at the hilarity inside my head. I turned and looked at my husband and said...." I don't know what all the fuss is about, I mean they knew why I was here....."


    read this and see how little we are respected

    Arizona Nurse Has License Threatened By Doctor After Providing Patient Education | The Nerdy Nurse

    I did ask why she was checked by so many nurses. Her response was because they were having trouble deciding. It all took place within a short time period. She says that the first nurse just wasn't sure, so she got a 2nd nurse. The 2nd nurse "thought" one thing, but somewhere along the line they pulled another nurse in to check as well. Sounds kinda excessive to me. Then they wanted to discharge her, telling her she was NOT in active labor. She made a stink about it, the "veteran nurse" happened to overhear and agreed to check her. The entire time, she was saying she was actively contracting, the "newer nurses" were telling her she was not having any contractions.

    Thank you for sharing that link. That is horrible. Did you see they delayed her hearing for 2 more months pending a psychiatric evaluation.
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  3. Visit  anotherone} profile page
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    Does anyone know hot that arizona's nurse's case turned out? wow. a couple of times I have had patients tell me they are not sure if they really want to proceed with surgery and the patients do not seem to know all that their diagnosis /prognosis even with surgery is. Everytime I have told the patient to speak with their doctors abut this. I also notify one of the primary doctors on the case about this and most of the time they had no clue what they patient was thinking and appreciated the information.
  4. Visit  Simply Complicated} profile page
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    Quote from anotherone
    Does anyone know hot that arizona's nurse's case turned out? wow. a couple of times I have had patients tell me they are not sure if they really want to proceed with surgery and the patients do not seem to know all that their diagnosis /prognosis even with surgery is. Everytime I have told the patient to speak with their doctors abut this. I also notify one of the primary doctors on the case about this and most of the time they had no clue what they patient was thinking and appreciated the information.

    Her hearing was delayed 2 months for a psych eval.
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  5. Visit  Ruby Vee} profile page
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    we don't know the whole story about the incident described in the original post. we rarely know the whole story, but the "default position" for most family members of patients seems to be "fire the nurse if we don't get what we want when we want it." it's sad, because things didn't used to be that way. family members used to respect the nurse and patients were grateful for the care they got. everyone seems to be entitled these days.

    people in extreme situations can lash out . . . and there can be misperceptions on the part of people in extreme -- or not so extreme -- situations that make them allow themselves to lash out. lashing out is never a constructive response . . . but it is a common one.
    Meriwhen and wooh like this.
  6. Visit  IowaKaren} profile page
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    Quote from Simply Complicated
    Her hearing was delayed 2 months for a psych eval.
    You should read the story about the psych eval since the statement sounds so like she is having a breakdown when it just means they want her to take a psych eval and will delay longer. No such thing as a righteous and speedy trial in some cases.
  7. Visit  Hampter320} profile page
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    Quote from anotherone
    Does anyone know hot that arizona's nurse's case turned out? wow. a couple of times I have had patients tell me they are not sure if they really want to proceed with surgery and the patients do not seem to know all that their diagnosis /prognosis even with surgery is. Everytime I have told the patient to speak with their doctors abut this. I also notify one of the primary doctors on the case about this and most of the time they had no clue what they patient was thinking and appreciated the information.
    And that is 100% the correct action to be taken. This way everyone is on the same page.
  8. Visit  TheGuestNurse} profile page
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    nurses are seen as a liability and a drain on the hospital ecosystem. Doctors are seen as the money makers.
    lovelylady3 and wooh like this.
  9. Visit  losbozos} profile page
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    Yes! They DO get fired. Pts feel empowered by doing this or they may not be aware of the consequences.
  10. Visit  Scarlette Wings} profile page
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    In almost 30 years of nursing I have rarely seen a true case of "fire the nurse first" over a patient complaint unless there was an extreme error or managers were already looking for an excuse to fire a person. I have witnessed administration in facilities making a nurse the scapegoat however. Those cases are really heart breakers if it happens to your friend. I left a job one time because I watched how they treated a fellow nurse in a situation that resulted in the hospital being held legally accountable. It was not based on a complaint but the threat of legal action.

    The nurse closest to rendering primary care and their supervisor were terminated that same day. It broke my heart to see how a facility could treat someone who had worked for them over ten years. I did not want to work in a place like that and left. I am so much happier now but wiser. I have grown up enough to realize when it comes to money or the threat of a lawsuit, a place will throw their floor staff under the bus in a New York minute!
  11. Visit  losbozos} profile page
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    Happened to me just 2 days ago. Every accusation was so very vague; no specifics. Been a RN >30 yrs & first time I've been fired.
  12. Visit  Tait} profile page
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    lol I always thought it was fire the waitress. Or fire the clerk. Or fire the ______. People always aim for the nearest target.
    enchantmentdis likes this.
  13. Visit  Roseyposey} profile page
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    Unless everybody had their fingers up there at the same time, there is no saying that she wasn't at a 3.
  14. Visit  Race Mom} profile page
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    When I was an L&D nurse I had checked a pt as anesthesia was on the unit to do an epidural for her. I needed to make sure her VERY slow labor was progressing. She was a VERY easy check and had finally progressed to a 4 so we started the epidural procedure. 20 minutes for epidural placement (at most) and pt stated she wasn't having relief yet so CRNA stayed in the room an prepped another kit. As pt is sitting up getting another sterile cleansing on her back, she came up to her feet from a standing position and said she needed to push. We got her side-lying and I checked her and she was crowning! I pushed the emergency button and my team ran in and helped me with my first nurse-assisted delivery! So, absolutely...someone can go from 4 to delivery in 30 minutes! This was her first baby too.


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