Why is it always "Fire the nurse" - page 2

by Simply Complicated

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I understand that when things go not as expected, or people don't feel they got the care they deserve, they have a right to be upset. If it was due to a mistake a nurse made, I understand feeling it was the nurses fault. But I... Read More


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    this totally makes me question whether or not I really want to go through with this....so many nurses are afraid to do anything and are afraid to talk to doctors for this very reason....smh the world we live in
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    I recently had a situation with my physician's office. A nurse (RN) there treated me very badly over the phone when I was in a crisis situation. I never said anything to the doctor, but she must have gotten wind of it, because she called me a few days later to apologize.

    I didn't say it, but yeah, I really did feel like the nurse should have at least been strongly disciplined for what happened. It caused me undue distress, and what she said was absolutely contrary to what the physician wanted. Ultimately, I left that practice because I felt like I never wanted to deal with that nurse again.

    When you have people who are in extreme situations, they can lash out. I'm dealing with cancer, and the last thing I needed was more upheaval. While I held my tongue about what happened between myself and that nurse, I wasn't able to get past it. Even now, I'm still unhappy about it. I chose not to say anything because she was a fellow nurse. It's probably different for the public; they don't have a sense of loyalty to the nurses.

    Had I been the pt. described in the OP, I think I would have been pretty p.o. to have been told I was a 3 when I was actually a 7.
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    "read this and see how little we are respected

    arizona nurse has license threatened by doctor after providing patient education | the nerdy nurse"

    i looked at that link and was shocked that this nurse who was trying to hold the highest standard of making sure the patient was educated and that their rights were being upheld, is now with no job and with her nursing license on hold, all because the doctor threw a tantrum. i encourage you to look at this link. it seems she needs our support, even with an email to her state board of nursing about our following of this case.
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    Quote from Esme12
    Because we are expendable and easily replaced when someone wants satisfaction. Because we are the least respected and disposable. We are the quickest, easiest, cheapest solution when someone is demanding a head on the platter. We cost the hospital money everytime we are paid. We don't bring in any direct revenue and our services are not directly billable.

    So when the time comes to place someone's head on a platter......we are the first thrown under the bus. As long as we continue to argue amongst ourselves we will have a difficult time gaining the respect we deserve.

    This particular situation seems to be missing key information. Why did the patient keep getting checked. What was the symptom that prompted her to keep getting checked. For the "senior nurse" to be finally called to the bedside I would assume sometime had passed and she very possibly progressed to 10.......the constant stimultion from frequent checking I would think help move things along. It has been my personal experience that when it comes time to deliver there is this sense of suprise and urgency that amused me even in labor.......like they didn't think a baby would be born eventually. The first time I delivered I think they thought at first I was hysterical bacause I bust out laughing at the hilarity inside my head. I turned and looked at my husband and said...." I don't know what all the fuss is about, I mean they knew why I was here....."


    read this and see how little we are respected

    Arizona Nurse Has License Threatened By Doctor After Providing Patient Education | The Nerdy Nurse

    I did ask why she was checked by so many nurses. Her response was because they were having trouble deciding. It all took place within a short time period. She says that the first nurse just wasn't sure, so she got a 2nd nurse. The 2nd nurse "thought" one thing, but somewhere along the line they pulled another nurse in to check as well. Sounds kinda excessive to me. Then they wanted to discharge her, telling her she was NOT in active labor. She made a stink about it, the "veteran nurse" happened to overhear and agreed to check her. The entire time, she was saying she was actively contracting, the "newer nurses" were telling her she was not having any contractions.

    Thank you for sharing that link. That is horrible. Did you see they delayed her hearing for 2 more months pending a psychiatric evaluation.
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    Does anyone know hot that arizona's nurse's case turned out? wow. a couple of times I have had patients tell me they are not sure if they really want to proceed with surgery and the patients do not seem to know all that their diagnosis /prognosis even with surgery is. Everytime I have told the patient to speak with their doctors abut this. I also notify one of the primary doctors on the case about this and most of the time they had no clue what they patient was thinking and appreciated the information.
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    Quote from anotherone
    Does anyone know hot that arizona's nurse's case turned out? wow. a couple of times I have had patients tell me they are not sure if they really want to proceed with surgery and the patients do not seem to know all that their diagnosis /prognosis even with surgery is. Everytime I have told the patient to speak with their doctors abut this. I also notify one of the primary doctors on the case about this and most of the time they had no clue what they patient was thinking and appreciated the information.

    Her hearing was delayed 2 months for a psych eval.
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    we don't know the whole story about the incident described in the original post. we rarely know the whole story, but the "default position" for most family members of patients seems to be "fire the nurse if we don't get what we want when we want it." it's sad, because things didn't used to be that way. family members used to respect the nurse and patients were grateful for the care they got. everyone seems to be entitled these days.

    people in extreme situations can lash out . . . and there can be misperceptions on the part of people in extreme -- or not so extreme -- situations that make them allow themselves to lash out. lashing out is never a constructive response . . . but it is a common one.
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    Quote from Simply Complicated
    Her hearing was delayed 2 months for a psych eval.
    You should read the story about the psych eval since the statement sounds so like she is having a breakdown when it just means they want her to take a psych eval and will delay longer. No such thing as a righteous and speedy trial in some cases.
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    Quote from anotherone
    Does anyone know hot that arizona's nurse's case turned out? wow. a couple of times I have had patients tell me they are not sure if they really want to proceed with surgery and the patients do not seem to know all that their diagnosis /prognosis even with surgery is. Everytime I have told the patient to speak with their doctors abut this. I also notify one of the primary doctors on the case about this and most of the time they had no clue what they patient was thinking and appreciated the information.
    And that is 100% the correct action to be taken. This way everyone is on the same page.
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    nurses are seen as a liability and a drain on the hospital ecosystem. Doctors are seen as the money makers.
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