The start of the gender bias already? - page 3
Well, the very first day that my nursing class came together as a group I was shown how male nurses "fit in" to our program. It was uniform fitting day for my class and the line was about 50... Read More
0Jul 16, '02 by darby1originally posted by lpn,future, rn
:chuckle sorry guys!
peeps, darby and all the other gentlemen nursing students, what excatly do you guys want in regards to a uniform. describe the uniform that you would like to wear that will coordinate with the women in your program.
p.s. oh yeah, i forgoteace!
p.s.s. you guys had better not make fun of my dern uniforms, or i'll tell miss cheerfuldoer on ya'!
0Jul 16, '02 by SleepyeyesOriginally posted by Peeps Mcarthur
That's like what I said to this horses a*s that ignored me. After he said that he didn't have my size in the pants, I said(already feeling the gender bias) "well, I might as well get used to it then................(turning to the women) What size do you think I should try on?"......... (turning to the uniform guy) "Do you have a maternity style?"....Everybody laughed but him:imbar .
Women have "support groups" and men have "clubs"...............Something like, "The Honorable Company of Allnurses.com" or "The Man-grapes against wine makers"(you see the mental image?)
I had wondered whether to offer to run a study group. A study group at our school must be approved for the program and be monitored by the instructors. I wonder how I would be treated.
I wonder if I can make progress for the gender in such a hostile environment.
Anybody running a staff sponsored study group? Is that a topic for another post?
Progress for the gender? Yes, you can. Our uniforms were affectionately renamed when one guy stepped onto the elevator for our first clinical with the white shirt, white pants, white socks, shoes, and white heavy canvas-type-cloth vest, and then sputtered, "Gawd! I feel like a TAMPON, fer crissakes!!"
:roll BWAAHAHAHAHAAA!! :roll
geez Ricky, where are ya when we need ya???
0Jul 16, '02 by Peeps McarthurGo ahead with the study group, Peeps, you'll be great. It'll be amazing to you to observe how many "friends" you pick up after you get your first "A" in your nursing classes.
After class the other students would just crowd around me asking questions and sometimes the teacher would be just sitting there all alone!:zzzzz I would look at her like "I need crowd control" and I would say "but that's only my understanding. The teacher is available now to clarify that"
I have to admit that it also helps if you know a woman's definition of "charming" but I played the role of a rock star for much of the last year because of my study habits and my availability when I saw that someone needed my help. I helped a small group(Peep's groupies) through micro that would have failed for sure. They still email me for advice and I always answer them.
Peeps, Darby and all the other gentlemen nursing students, what excatly do you guys want in regards to a uniform. Describe the uniform that you would like to wear that will coordinate with the women in your program.
The plain white zippered smock is looking good on a dentist but not on a student that works side by side with females dressed in the "real" uniforms.
I made an interesting observation today as I went over the uniform requirements for male nurses. The form stated that we could only wear the "uniform" as provided by the uniform company.
How is a plain white smock a "uniform"?
A "giant tampoon"!!:roll exactly!
How can they not see how ridiculouse that looks?Last edit by Peeps Mcarthur on Jul 16, '02
0Jul 16, '02 by Robin61970I agree with you Peeps.......I have learned to weed those out quickly......I have a female friend who is older than I and we study well together so we are kind of sticking with the same classes to help each other. We always make sure we get the same lab and such.....it helps......
0Jul 17, '02 by dianthe1013The last person I saw in a zippered smock was my old boss, who happened to be a fifty-eight year old pharmacist with the fashion sense of a toad.
I feel for you, Peeps. Well, I'd feel for you more if my uniform wasn't heinous... It consists of the aforementioned "tampon costume"...and a red pinafore. A RED PINAFORE!! ::falls over:: It's awful.
There aren't any guys in my clinical unit, so I don't know what their uniforms look like... But I bet it's the plain white smock thing. But hmm... White smock versus red pinafore...
Can I come to your school?
0Jul 17, '02 by Love-A-Nurseoriginally posted by peeps mcarthur
so true sleepy!:chuckle getting "a's" and having an understanding of the material being lectured is like being a freaking millionaire!!
after class the other students would just crowd around me asking questions and sometimes the teacher would be just sitting there all alone!:zzzzz i would look at her like "i need crowd control" and i would say "but that's only my understanding. the teacher is available now to clarify that"
i have to admit that it also helps if you know a woman's definition of "charming" but i played the role of a rock star for much of the last year because of my study habits and my availability when i saw that someone needed my help. i helped a small group(peep's groupies) through micro that would have failed for sure. they still email me for advice and i always answer them.
i want to wear a uniform that is made for a man(which obviously a zippered smock is not) that has the same colors and pattern of the women's uniforms.
the plain white zippered smock is looking good on a dentist but not on a student that works side by side with females dressed in the "real" uniforms.
i made an interesting observation today as i went over the uniform requirements for male nurses. the form stated that we could only wear the "uniform" as provided by the uniform company.
how is a plain white smock a "uniform"?
a "giant tampoon"!!:roll exactly!
how can they not see how ridiculouse that looks?
1Jul 17, '02 by Peeps McarthurPeeps, I am already an LPN, I am a Future, RN
I personally don't understand the drama since it will only be for clinicals and for your school days.
In a nutshell:
The male "uniforms" are not uniforms at all. The "tampon costumes" are obviousely condescending and say "you don't belong to our program" to me because they aren't similar to the other uniforms enough to tell if I'm even in the program.
I feel segregated.
White smock versus red pinafore...
0Jul 17, '02 by darby1Well Peeps, I went and ordered my uniforms today, and I was given a choice of a smok, or a teal colored polo shirt. I got the polo shirts, and two white lab coats, and two white pants. I actually do look like the rest of the crowd, and our uniforms look pretty good. We had our orientation today, and the men were treated really well. I think I'm going to like it! keep up your fight, and help to get the men that come after you some nice threads. Good luck. Darby
0Jul 17, '02 by ggfifirnNo uniforms for me yet, since I'm still doing prereqs, but from what I understand, our school just makes everyone wear white scrub tops & bottoms, with a school patch on the sleeve. The last time I wore a zippered smock for work was when I worked at McDonald's back in high school in the mid 70's!
Peeps, stick to your convictions...you should not be made to feel like a 2nd class citizen just because of your gender.
0Jul 18, '02 by dianthe1013Peeps:
What's a pinafore?...........................Sounds like food to me!
"pinafore (n) : a sleeveless usually low-necked garment fastened in the back and worn as an apron or dress"
::waits for Peeps to stop laughing::
Yep. You having flashes of 1948 candy stripers yet? Just kidding, of course; some of us look darn good in them. But the guys wouldn't be too find of them, I wouldn't think...