Pulled from floor by "Men in Black"

  1. 1 I was working, and a group of suited up men pulled me from the floor and asked me questions about a patient's care. Afterwards, my charge nurse said that more than likely there is a law suit in the works and that they had pulled several people including her. That made me wonder what goes on in cases like this?

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    So if the family sues the hospital would I be required to testify? Is this a common thing?
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  3. Visit  mikala3 profile page

    About mikala3

    Joined Feb '12; Posts: 45; Likes: 16.

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  4. Visit  GrnTea profile page
    29
    1) Maybe
    2) If they come again, remember: Never, ever talk to anone like this without your own lawyer present
    3) Never, ever sign ANYTHING without your own lawyer reading it first
    cienurse, vintagemother, nrsang97, and 26 others like this.
  5. Visit  RNsRWe profile page
    28
    Quote from mikala3
    I was working, and a group of suited up men pulled me from the floor and asked me questions about a patient's care. Afterwards, my charge nurse said that more than likely there is a law suit in the works and that they had pulled several people including her. That made me wonder what goes on in cases like this?

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    So if the family sues the hospital would I be required to testify? Is this a common thing?
    Am I understanding it correctly that a group of men, wearing suits, "pulled you" into a room to discuss a patient and you didn't ask for ID? Or authorization to talk to them?

    Why on earth would you talk to a "group of suited up men" without knowing the agenda, and your potential liability in doing so?

    Sounds like once they were finished with you, they have a potential witness--and no protection on your part from anything.
    poppycat, CCRNDiva, Marshall1, and 25 others like this.
  6. Visit  xoemmylouox profile page
    15
    NEVER EVER talk to anyone like that without a lawyer present. You also NEVER say anything to anyone if you do not know who they are. Just an FYI for the future. CYA at all times.
    cienurse, Marshall1, JDZ344, and 12 others like this.
  7. Visit  nurse2033 profile page
    17
    I can't imagine any appropriate scenario in which you are "pulled from the floor" by an unidentified group of people to answer questions about a patient without violating HIPAA.
    Marshall1, Syrenia, elkpark, and 14 others like this.
  8. Visit  Meriwhen profile page
    12
    Ask to see a release of information from the patient stating that they give you permission to talk to said men in black

    Seriously, tell them that you are unable to discuss the patient's care with anyone without a written release, and that if it pertains to any potential legal action, you will only answer questions with your attorney present. Then refer them to your nurse manager if they keep pressing the issue.

    If they start making threats about how you're being uncooperative or breaking the law...well, only a judge can rule if you've broken the law, so that's an empty threat.

    And don't let them insinuate that if you need a lawyer to talk to them that you must be guilty of wrongdoing...better they think that and you're protected legally by your lawyer's presence, than you trying to show that you're innocent by cooperating without legal protection for you.
    Nurserton, Wise Woman RN, lindarn, and 9 others like this.
  9. Visit  JBudd profile page
    21
    What the rest said....

    First: who are you?
    Second: does the hospital know you are here?
    Third: What authority do you have?
    Fourth: I'm calling security.
    BluegrassRN, cienurse, CCRNDiva, and 18 others like this.
  10. Visit  NicuGal profile page
    12
    Never talk to anyone without the hospital legal team present!!!!!
    nrsang97, Nurserton, loriangel14, and 9 others like this.
  11. Visit  ScottE profile page
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    CCRNDiva, nrsang97, CallieNM, and 17 others like this.
  12. Visit  Altra profile page
    11
    The situation, as it has been presented, strains credulity. Maybe some important details are missing.
    cienurse, JDZ344, Wise Woman RN, and 8 others like this.
  13. Visit  Andy Droid profile page
    2
    Maybe these were friends of the patient, and this was some not-so-elaborate set up for the patient to sue the hospital for HIPAA violations. (you apparently did answer questions to some random unknown folks about a specific patient.....)
    Esme12 and sckimrn like this.
  14. Visit  nursel56 profile page
    15
    If they tell you this is a harmless otoscope, run.
    teeniebert, Lame, vintagemother, and 12 others like this.
  15. Visit  JailRN profile page
    5
    Why would you discuss ANY pt with ANYONE without knowing who they were? You've put yourself in a jam! Hope you have a good lawyer and malpractice insurance!! Even a good lawyer will tell you to keep quiet unless there's a subpoena.
    loriangel14, VivaLasViejas, merlee, and 2 others like this.


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