Nursing student lied about me to my manager, and I cannot prove it. - page 2

by Tortoiseshell

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I will try to make this short. I am an RN and have been working in a hospital med-surg unit for 4 years. Recently one of our nurses was precepting an RN student who is about to graduate. I was getting report from the... Read More


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    I am just a regular student waiting to be accepted to the nursing program and I read this and had to say that I have pity on that nursing student because she is going to have a really hard time fitting into any floor to work with a group of people. . I feel so bad that you had to go through that. Its a pity that your manager was so rude to you. You would think that since you have worked there for so long, she would have an idea of your character and a little insight of what you would or wouldn't do. She didn't accept the fact that there are three sides to that story, your side, the student's side and the right side, so she should have really investigated before just coming down on you.
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    Quote from beeker
    We're there any witnesses? Can you have some witnesses come forward?
    that' s the same thing i am thinking. Any witness that can forward?
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    Recently one of our nurses was precepting an RN student who is about to graduate. I was getting report from the student 2 times, and each time the student was handing me a chart with new orders saying she didnt have the time to look at them. She also did not follow the post-sedation protocol and did not do post-op vitals of a friesh post-surgical patient. She left a patient on the bedpan, and when a CNA and I went to change the patient, she had imprints on her skin from being on the bedpan for too long. Because it happened more than once, I said to her "This is something you need to know when you give the report". I understand that she probably did not like to hear that. However I felt that I addressed it in a neutral way, and did not go over board.
    Your statement was rude and condescending. How would you like it one of your coworkers said that to you? You should have phrased it as so: "I have found that it is always a good idea to check the orders prior to shift change so you can give a more complete report to the next nurse." Telling someone they "need" to do something is not okay. You are not her boss. The manager is her boss -- and yours as well. Also, if new orders come in at the very end of my shift, I probably won't acknowledge them either. I have other responsibilities at that time.

    Learn from this.
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    It is not fun being lied on. If there are no witnesses then it is your word against hers. I think all three people involved should take accountablity for their actions. Start with yourself first. How was your tone? Could you have said what you said differently? It is not what you say but how you say it.
    You were right in correcting the student, I would have talked to the student's preceptor as well so everyone is on the same page. The student need to be held accountable for her actions as well. If she is overwhelmed or needed help she should ask. Leaving a patient on a bedpan is unexceptable.
    The preceptor should have been there with the student and once again should have been in on the converstation between you in the student.
    I think it is a great idea to arrange a mediation between the three of you, not sure why your manager is against this.
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    OP I am a student nurse. I do not think that you were rude at all. Perhaps you could have phrased it a little more tactfully (some people are sensitive). However, I have had MANY worse and ruder things said to me by some of the RNs. Next time this happens just mention to the preceptor that this is a weakness for the student and it is a consistent issue. That is how the nicer RNs tell our clinical instructors when we make mistakes. It might make the person more comfortable being addressed by someone she sees in an instructor roll. I am very sorry that you have to deal with this, and I hope that you get that transfer.
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    Quote from LoveNeverDies
    OP I am a student nurse. I do not think that you were rude at all. Perhaps you could have phrased it a little more tactfully (some people are sensitive). However, I have had MANY worse and ruder things said to me by some of the RNs. Next time this happens just mention to the preceptor that this is a weakness for the student and it is a consistent issue. That is how the nicer RNs tell our clinical instructors when we make mistakes. It might make the person more comfortable being addressed by someone she sees in an instructor roll. I am very sorry that you have to deal with this, and I hope that you get that transfer.
    I would feel sorry if the OP did not bring this on herself. I hope in the future she will be more respectful when speaking to her colleagues.
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    First of all the nursing student ISN'T a colleague...she's learning from an established nurse...I certainly cannot believe that you guys are blaming the OP because of her "tone of voice"...what if the pt that the student didn't get off the bedpan winds up with a pressure ulcer that the hospital will not NOT get paid for because of Medicare reimbursement? Our instructors wouldn't stand for that - nor would they stand for a student to go running to the NM like a little toady...

    That student should be ashamed of herself, as should the instructor...we are taught from the beginning of nursing school that we are guests in the hospitals, because they don't have to let us be there....
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    Quote from RNdynamic
    I would feel sorry if the OP did not bring this on herself. I hope in the future she will be more respectful when speaking to her colleagues.
    If the OP has any fault at all in the interaction, it should stand up on it's own merits. Reasonable people don't make things up when they genuinely feel wronged. Anyone who would falsely accuse another of misconduct with the intention of bringing negative consequences beyond what actually happened doesn't belong in nursing at all.
    Last edit by nursel56 on Mar 4, '13 : Reason: to edit something
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    Quote from RNdynamic
    Your statement was rude and condescending. How would you like it one of your coworkers said that to you? You should have phrased it as so: "I have found that it is always a good idea to check the orders prior to shift change so you can give a more complete report to the next nurse." Telling someone they "need" to do something is not okay. You are not her boss. The manager is her boss -- and yours as well. Also, if new orders come in at the very end of my shift, I probably won't acknowledge them either. I have other responsibilities at that time.

    Learn from this.
    I'd rather have someone tell me "This is something you need to know when you give the report" than to run to my instructor or the floor manager. Personally I think she exaggerated the situation to the manager just in case she got written up by OP.
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    Quote from Twinmom06
    First of all the nursing student ISN'T a colleague...she's learning from an established nurse...I certainly cannot believe that you guys are blaming the OP because of her "tone of voice"...
    Seriously, especially when it's a complete assumption. "This is something you need to know when you give the report" is neither rude nor condescending. It is a factual statement. Too bad the student doesn't wish to learn anything. If I have to suffer through receiving report from a student (and later have to look up everything to make sure they were correct and didn't leave anything out, god bless them, I was a student doing this to people not very long ago) I have every right to offer constructive criticism on the report. 20 bucks says the student was "student aged." I think most find that Gen Y's don't understand or accept constructive criticism. They want everyone to tell them how wonderful they are.
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