My God, these family members!! - page 21

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They are just killing me. Why is it that so many of them feel so entitled to sit in their aging parents rooms and just boss us nurses to HELL and back, while they sit there, fully able to do much of what we're doing for their... Read More


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    Quote from pedicurn
    oh i get it now....the families are expecting the same type of service one would expect from a hotel or restaurant
    a fine hotel or restaurant, and i'm not sure even then they'd be happy. what restaurant is going to toilet your mother for you? (not your mother the patient; your mother the visitor.)
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    Quote from pedicurn
    What if the nurses don't get to use their break room? Why should they go without fluids?
    I would suffer health issues if not allowed my capped water bottle at the work station.
    They are adults doing an important job who are entitled to be treated well.
    They are not servants or small children.
    Bet my bottom dollar the manager doesn't go without fluids. The manager needs to learn how to BOTH accommodate her/his staff and
    satisfy regulations
    Hey, don't shoot the messenger please! I'm just telling you what the regulations state. And, if your nurses station has a sharps container in it, it's considered a "dirty" area and food and drink are simply not allowed. It has nothing to do with being treated like a child or servant, it's the law.
    The manager doesn't go without fluids because his/her office is not considered a "dirty" area. I work as an Employee Health Nurse, and I had to move my sharps container to the bathroom in order for me to have a drink at my desk. Once again, following regulations.
    And no, the manager only has to follow regulations. They don't have to accomodate anyone if it means compromising regulations and getting citations.

    Like I said, I understand. I worked the floor for over 15 years. And yes, I had a drink with me, and got busted a few times, too. But it really irks me when people act like it's the managers being "mean", or nurses are being treated like "servants", when it's really a matter of following regs so the facility doesn't get fined which may result in the employees not getting raises.

    'nuff said.....
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    Quote from jkaee
    Hey, don't shoot the messenger please! I'm just telling you what the regulations state. And, if your nurses station has a sharps container in it, it's considered a "dirty" area and food and drink are simply not allowed. It has nothing to do with being treated like a child or servant, it's the law.
    The manager doesn't go without fluids because his/her office is not considered a "dirty" area. I work as an Employee Health Nurse, and I had to move my sharps container to the bathroom in order for me to have a drink at my desk. Once again, following regulations.
    And no, the manager only has to follow regulations. They don't have to accomodate anyone if it means compromising regulations and getting citations.

    Like I said, I understand. I worked the floor for over 15 years. And yes, I had a drink with me, and got busted a few times, too. But it really irks me when people act like it's the managers being "mean", or nurses are being treated like "servants", when it's really a matter of following regs so the facility doesn't get fined which may result in the employees not getting raises.

    'nuff said.....
    indeed it is OSHA...however are there not exceptions for covered containers?
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    I hear ya! I remember when I worked in Med/Surg I was about to walk one elderly pt to the bathroom, and asked her family if one of them could walk behind us with the iv pole. They all just looked at me with their eyebrows raised. Unfortunately this was not an isolated incident but typical of many (not all) family members and visitors. Family members that refuse to empty urinals and bedpans irk me too, one pt's son told me that it grossed him out too much. I told him, "yeah, it doesn't do much for me either."
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    Quote from jkaee
    Hey, don't shoot the messenger please! I'm just telling you what the regulations state. And, if your nurses station has a sharps container in it, it's considered a "dirty" area and food and drink are simply not allowed. It has nothing to do with being treated like a child or servant, it's the law.
    The manager doesn't go without fluids because his/her office is not considered a "dirty" area. I work as an Employee Health Nurse, and I had to move my sharps container to the bathroom in order for me to have a drink at my desk. Once again, following regulations.
    And no, the manager only has to follow regulations. They don't have to accomodate anyone if it means compromising regulations and getting citations.

    Like I said, I understand. I worked the floor for over 15 years. And yes, I had a drink with me, and got busted a few times, too. But it really irks me when people act like it's the managers being "mean", or nurses are being treated like "servants", when it's really a matter of following regs so the facility doesn't get fined which may result in the employees not getting raises.

    'nuff said.....
    Didn't mean to shoot the messenger ...apologies if seemed that way.

    However I'll agree to differ. Nurses are treated poorly when they can't have the fluids they need.
    The existence of regulation doesn't mean it can't be debated or disagreed with? Nurses (mostly) haven't joined the military.
    This issue really irks me....years and years of being treated by children by people who are supposed to have more managerial ability than me.
    They lack the managerial ability, will and real respect for nurses (not 'their nurses') ....that's why they say 'it's the regulation...nothing can be done about it'. That's a load of bull. They need to start thinking more creatively ...start finding a way to satisfy regulations and staff needs.
    Oh yes ...it can actually be done ....adults in other industries expect better. And they often receive better.
    I expect a professional manager to possess the required education, experience, will and intelligence...and make it work.
    There is no reason why nurses should get less.
    Not wishing to accommodate nurses is a cop-out.

    Really, I sometimes wonder ...if this occupation did not provide a reasonable pay and so much flexibility ....it would be a complete pink ghetto.
    We ALL need to start taking responsibility to improve conditions .
    Last edit by pedicurn on Aug 5, '10
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    If not having food or fluids at the nurses station is a regulation, it is not well enforced. Only one of the five US hospitals I worked for abided by it. I quit after about 6 months of dehydration.

    Patients eat and drink beside sharps containers. Nurses do strenuous jobs and often delay or miss their regular breaks. It's a regulation that creates more dangers than it prevents.
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    Sorry I have never seen a regulation where we can't have drink bottles near sharps containers or anywhere else. I always have my big water bottle in the nurses' station - I don't care what anyone says. And no, I don't leave it in the kitchen because some nurse manager swanning around with her cup of tea while we are all gasping, says we must. We have a right to at least drink, even if we don't get time for proper breaks.
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    I got an urgent call to a patient's room a month or so ago. His whole family was standing around the bed and parted as I entered the room....Only to see him holding the menu. His sister said, Ok, the nurse is here, now tell her what you want. He started giving me his dinner order. Ummm, I tried waitressing in college and want everyone here to know if I had to do it for a living, I would starve. I always screwed orders up, forgot to turn them in and basically was a nightmare. I then informed the family of my track record and kindly gave them the number to the kitchen so he could place his order. I mean, really?
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    Quote from jkaee
    Hey, don't shoot the messenger please! I'm just telling you what the regulations state. And, if your nurses station has a sharps container in it, it's considered a "dirty" area and food and drink are simply not allowed. It has nothing to do with being treated like a child or servant, it's the law.
    The manager doesn't go without fluids because his/her office is not considered a "dirty" area. I work as an Employee Health Nurse, and I had to move my sharps container to the bathroom in order for me to have a drink at my desk. Once again, following regulations.
    And no, the manager only has to follow regulations. They don't have to accomodate anyone if it means compromising regulations and getting citations.

    Like I said, I understand. I worked the floor for over 15 years. And yes, I had a drink with me, and got busted a few times, too. But it really irks me when people act like it's the managers being "mean", or nurses are being treated like "servants", when it's really a matter of following regs so the facility doesn't get fined which may result in the employees not getting raises.

    'nuff said.....

    I have a question: so if there are not sharps containers at the nurse's station, drinks should be allowed? We have a large station, at one end is the med pixis way at the other end is a water and ice dispenser.(it is an open station with no pt food room - ICU) We are told we cannot keep our drinks out at the end with the water disenser. How does this make sense? They say it is too near where meds are prepared. But it's ok to given pts water from the exact same area? Plus, good point that was made about pts eating in their rooms right next to sharps. Seriously, you seem to know some about this, so just wondering.

    I totally agree that there have to be creative solutions to satisfy safety and basic human needs. I think we have all gone home and peed brown we are so dehydrated - no one can argue we need more access to water and food more easily. And until we have enough staff to safely cover my patients, I will keep my water out! Write me up - please!
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    You know what would have been funny although definitely not appreciated by management is if when that lady was yelling "Good thing it's not an emergency," one of the staff should have yelled back "Exactly it's not an emergency!"
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