leaving my job gave a 2 weeks manager very rude. - page 4

I am an RN and just got hired onto a new facility. I have been driving 50 miles one way to work and wanted to find a hospital to work at closer to my home, which I did. I turned in my notice I asked... Read More

  1. Visit  Seas} profile page
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    Quote from SweettartRN
    I have had no issues getting hired elsewhere, and I haven't given a notice in 8 years.
    I have read all the replies in this topic. Your replies are the only ones that make me wow. What are you exactly defending? Just walking out of door with no notice is plain out rude, unprofessional and possibly a regret for the employer who chose to hire you. Honey, there is nothing to defend about leaving with no notice. You are on the wrong track. And it is ironic that YOU are talking about ethics, and morals. lol. Seriously?
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  3. Visit  Seas} profile page
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    I am one of the first posters who replied to this topic. I am admitting that my ideas and thoughts changed when I read the following replies. I now disagree with my first post where I thought the OP was right and should not work that extra shift. Considering it is not even a 2 week's notice (facility may even require 4 weeks), and leaving during holidays, yes OP is being more unprofessional and rude to the employer. He/She didn't provide additional info regarding how rude the manager actually got, yes, manager is right not to welcome OP's leaving this way.
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  4. Visit  lemur00} profile page
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    I would advise working the shift simply because you said you would. Regardless of future hiring potential, we all have a personal responsibility to be true to our word. If it were a current issue for discussion between you and the manager, that would be different. But the agreement has already been made.
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  5. Visit  RNsRWe} profile page
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    Quote from SweettartRN

    A person's true character is important. I would a million times rather hire a nurse with ethics than one who has no values or morals.
    How do I know your "true character" is good when you say you never give notice...and *I* think that is a serious character flaw?

    Also -- Did you mean you'd rather hire a nurse with ethics than one with morals or values? Or that you'd rather hire a nurse without ethics who has no morals and values? What you actually wrote makes no sense: Why would anyone choose to hire a nurse with ethics but no values or morals? Frankly, you'd be hard-pressed to find such an applicant. You know, the one with ethics but is amoral and without any values.

    Either way, it still doesn't make much sense from a business standpoint. As a hiring manager, I'D rather hire someone who I felt wouldn't screw me out of preparing for an empty slot to fill...you know, someone who is unethical enough to disregard proper business etiquette with regard to giving notice.

    In that case, I think their "true character" will become plenty evident.
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  6. Visit  SweettartRN} profile page
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    Quote from Seas
    I have read all the replies in this topic. Your replies are the only ones that make me wow. What are you exactly defending? Just walking out of door with no notice is plain out rude, unprofessional and possibly a regret for the employer who chose to hire you. Honey, there is nothing to defend about leaving with no notice. You are on the wrong track. And it is ironic that YOU are talking about ethics, and morals. lol. Seriously?
    At-will employment says that either I or my employer can terminate the relationship for any reason at any time. This is the law where I live. Employers should not be more protected than we are by threatening to give a bad reference simply because someone decided to terminate the work relationship.
    If my employer decided that my time with them was done, I would be escorted out the door with nary a backwards glance.


    I do not understand where all of this nastiness comes from by people not realizing that employers, this day and age DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU. You are a number to them, and you don't owe them anything. If you feel you want to give notice, then by all means, but employers being loyal to their employees is a myth; it is simply not happening. If I have done my job correctly, and have done a good job, someone can easily step in and fill my shoes. Employees in this work environment, and especially nurses, are disposable.
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  7. Visit  SweettartRN} profile page
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    Quote from RNsRWe
    How do I know your "true character" is good when you say you never give notice...and *I* think that is a serious character flaw?

    Also -- Did you mean you'd rather hire a nurse with ethics than one with morals or values? Or that you'd rather hire a nurse without ethics who has no morals and values? What you actually wrote makes no sense: Why would anyone choose to hire a nurse with ethics but no values or morals? Frankly, you'd be hard-pressed to find such an applicant. You know, the one with ethics but is amoral and without any values.

    Either way, it still doesn't make much sense from a business standpoint. As a hiring manager, I'D rather hire someone who I felt wouldn't screw me out of preparing for an empty slot to fill...you know, someone who is unethical enough to disregard proper business etiquette with regard to giving notice.

    In that case, I think their "true character" will become plenty evident.
    No, I meant what I sad. Morals, ethics, and values all align together. I would hire someone with ethics over someone with no morals or values. Exactly like I said. Sorry that confuses you so greatly.

    As a hiring manager, you would fire someone and walk them to the door the week before Christmas if it came down that the "position was eliminated" or "funding was no longer available" and wouldn't think twice about the person or persons again. You can see my other post about at-will employment.....
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  8. Visit  anotherone} profile page
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    Although I strongly agree that any employer would fire you or lay you off to save a dime at anytime without a thought, I realize who has the power. Nurses are a dime a dozen and jobs are difficult to obtain. Bridges can be burned arbitrarily and not always by the employee., but i still kiss up as much as possible and try to not burn bidges, no matter how useless they may be.Since you said you would work that shift, now you should go. suckit up at this point. so what , it is the holidAys? should employees now not start new jobs nov-jan? maybe summer vacation time too? only get a new job when it is convinient for your current employer?
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  9. Visit  SweettartRN} profile page
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    Quote from anotherone
    Although I strongly agree that any employer would fire you or lay you off to save a dime at anytime without a thought, I realize who has the power. Nurses are a dime a dozen and jobs are difficult to obtain. Bridges can be burned arbitrarily and not always by the employee., but i still kiss up as much as possible and try to not burn bidges, no matter how useless they may be.Since you said you would work that shift, now you should go. suckit up at this point. so what , it is the holidAys? should employees now not start new jobs nov-jan? maybe summer vacation time too? only get a new job when it is convinient for your current employer?
    I fully respect those who want to stay and want to do what *they* feel is right; I can't argue with that.

    However, I also have to do what *I* feel is right as well, and that means looking out for #1, because my employer will not. I have a family that relies on ME, and if I can't take care of them, then we are all in trouble.
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  10. Visit  redhead_NURSE98!} profile page
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    Quote from SweettartRN

    I do not understand where all of this nastiness comes from by people not realizing that employers, this day and age DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU. You are a number to them, and you don't owe them anything. If you feel you want to give notice, then by all means, but employers being loyal to their employees is a myth; it is simply not happening. If I have done my job correctly, and have done a good job, someone can easily step in and fill my shoes. Employees in this work environment, and especially nurses, are disposable.
    I do get all that, and employers wouldn't think twice about terminating any of us, even on Christmas Eve. However, I kind of feel like walking out is disrespectful to your coworkers. I have had it done to me and it's no fun. Do you have no consideration for any of them? Just another point of view.
  11. Visit  08RNGrad} profile page
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    See what your facility requires, my hospital required 3 weeks and my last employer requested 1 month. This matters. If the extra shift you were coersed into taking was outside of the required length required, feel free to cancel, if not, suck it up and work it. Especially after working less than a year, you want to leave in good standing. 1 day of extra work, is not worth it for all the stress. I do sympathize with you, that totally sucks you have to go directly to your next job. Maybe try to kill your mngr with kindness and she will allow you to take some of your PTO before leaving...or there is always a sick day, cough cough. LOL. I know, I know, that is wrong.
  12. Visit  anotherone} profile page
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    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!
    I do get all that, and employers wouldn't think twice about terminating any of us, even on Christmas Eve. However, I kind of feel like walking out is disrespectful to your coworkers. I have had it done to me and it's no fun. Do you have no consideration for any of them? Just another point of view.
    If a better oppurtunity presented itself they would leave. Many of my ex coworkers did that. A replacement was never found within 2 weeks. Every nurse had been replaced by a new grad too, so it took a lot longer than even 4 weeks. I dont hold that against any ex coworker. Everyone has to do what is best for themselves. I would go in and maybe stay prn but not for purely altruistic reasons.
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  13. Visit  Ntheboat2} profile page
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    Quote from SweettartRN
    I fully respect those who want to stay and want to do what *they* feel is right; I can't argue with that.

    However, I also have to do what *I* feel is right as well, and that means looking out for #1, because my employer will not. I have a family that relies on ME, and if I can't take care of them, then we are all in trouble.
    I agree that employers don't care about you and it's really not fair that they can escort you to the door with no notice, but expect a 2-4 week notice in return. However, what's fair and what is actually happening are not the same. They WILL put you on the "do not hire" list if you do to them exactly what they will or have done to you. They WILL tell future employers that they shouldn't hire you. They can get that message across without saying anything at all! It's not "fair" that men get paid more than women for the same jobs either. It still happens!

    My family relies on me too, and we're all in trouble if I can't take care of them too. That's EXACTLY why working out a notice is important. I was *almost* in the boat of having to tell my family, "I'm sorry, but I can't get a job because I didn't finish out my notice." Luckily, I got my status changed. I'm certain that my children would rather me suck it up so that they can be provided for vs. going without because I wanted to be a rebel. In this economy, I don't know many people who can afford to have a "do not rehire" on their record because they didn't feel like working one single last shift. Unfortunately, when you're sitting at home with bills piling up and no money to pay them, you can't go back and finish that last shift.
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  14. Visit  BlueDevil,DNP} profile page
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    You don't owe it her as much as you owe it yourself. Her behavior is a reflection on her, your is a reflection on you. No person is any better than their word. You said you would work, you are honor bound to do what you said you would do. How could you look yourself in he mirror if you broke your word?
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