leaving my job gave a 2 weeks manager very rude. - page 3

by purpleRN6163

I am an RN and just got hired onto a new facility. I have been driving 50 miles one way to work and wanted to find a hospital to work at closer to my home, which I did. I turned in my notice I asked for my last shift to be 1 week... Read More


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    My facility's HR doesn't let mgrs give detailed references. All you'll get is "not eligible for rehire" as a reference. Not worth it for one day more at a job. Agree with Brillohead:

    Because it's the decent thing to do.
    It's the professional thing to do.
    It's the ethical thing to do.
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    Quote from SweettartRN
    Two weeks notice, or any kind of notice, is dated, old-fashioned, and may actually hurt you in the long run. If they walk you out they can say you were terminated.

    The employer does not extend a two week notice when they ask you to leave. Why should the expectation be any different from an employee?
    Dated and old fashioned? Hurt in the long run? Care to share what you mean by this? What about the patients that are expecting quality care? What about your coworkers that are stuck pulling extra shifts or working short?

    The nursing community is generally pretty small - everyone knows someone who knows someone. Not sure how long you've been in the business but I'd bet money you're not making a good reputation for yourself with this attitude.
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    Quote from SweettartRN
    I'm sorry but even if you give two weeks notice, you are not "guaranteed" a good reference from a place. If someone is ticked off that you're leaving, they can do whatever they want to you. Even if you've performed amazingly. I've seen it happen before. Two weeks notice, or any kind of notice, is dated, old-fashioned, and may actually hurt you in the long run. If they walk you out they can say you were terminated.

    The employer does not extend a two week notice when they ask you to leave. Why should the expectation be any different from an employee?
    I agree with you that since employers get to benefit from the "at will. we don't have to give a notice and can fire you for any reason or no reason at all" then we should get to as well! Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. I learned the hard way. After skipping out on ONE SHIFT (much like the OP is describing...the last shift of a 2 week notice) I was put on the "do not hire" list. It didn't matter that i had never, ever been in trouble for anything, never had any warning, or that I had great reviews. That ONE shift landed me on the do not hire list for the company that practically owns healthcare within hundreds of miles. I was lucky that after appealing the decision the person in charge at HR changed my status. Most people aren't that fortunate and they have to either worry that future employers are going to be told they are no rehire OR not put them down on their application and risk being found out as a liar. Not to mention, if you don't put it down then you don't get credit for all that experience. Either way, it's just a sucky situation. Even being the rebel that I like to think I am (lol) it was a big mistake and I'd recommend to anyone to just suck it up and finish out every single last day!
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    I worked for a home hospice company for 6 years. Rarely called in, worked almost every day and many months was working 24/7 both as case manager and on call. I gave at least 3 weeks notice. The day BEFORE my last day of work, I decided to go ahead and turn in all of my stuff so I didn't have to drive into town my last day as I had no patients to see.

    I hung around the office for about 1.5h waiting until the office manager was free, not to mention worked the entire previous weekend with a key to the office. After I turned in my stuff, I left and saw the general manager and said goodbye, she gave me a hug and asked for my business card as I am also a REALTOR. I went to my car and when I went back in to give it to her, the office manager came out and started following me around.

    I asked her what she wanted and she told me the DON, who just 10min ago also was giving me a hug, wanted her to escort me out the door. I was shocked, well I proceded to walk down the hall to find the general manager but she wasn't in her office so I asked one of the team leaders to give her my card.

    I was fuming when I got to my car, after 6 years of being so loyal to this company, this was the thanks I got. I still had my work email on my personal blackberry so i did an all email to the entire company telling them goodbye and said sorry I didn't get to tell everyone goddby but the DON HAD ME ESCORTED OUT THE DOOR!!! My email was off within 15min. At least everyone was able to see what loyalty got ya.
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    Do what is right for you. It's not professional of her to be "mean" as well. Dont take it personal.
    I worked my last day for my coworkers because I was close to them honestly.
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    I think it would just better if you would be the better person. Finish all the task that needed to be done, then move on to your new job. At least she would not be able to say that you reneged on your promise.
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    Quote from Nascar nurse
    Dated and old fashioned? Hurt in the long run? Care to share what you mean by this? What about the patients that are expecting quality care? What about your coworkers that are stuck pulling extra shifts or working short?

    The nursing community is generally pretty small - everyone knows someone who knows someone. Not sure how long you've been in the business but I'd bet money you're not making a good reputation for yourself with this attitude.
    Yes. A two weeks notice is dated and old fashioned. We are moving into a world that is lawsuit heavy. Someone calling HR for a reference and they say they are ineligible for rehire, so what?

    Here's an example. A nurse worked for two solid years at a facility. She had excellent reviews. It was announced at a staff meeting that a substantial sum of money was missing from their non-profit organization specifically the medical department fund, and that no one was going to do anything about it. She chose to file a police report for ethical reasons, left without notice, and was told never to come back. Anyone who calls this employer says that she is ineligible for rehire, and that they won't let her back in the building, but don't say why.

    In this case, there are two sides to every story. You do not always get the full story and just because someone is ineligible for rehire, does not mean that they were a poor employee or did anything wrong. References don't mean a thing this day and age. Especially when you have organizations that are set up such as "Dial a Reference" where anyone can pay to have fake references given.

    A person's true character is important. I would a million times rather hire a nurse with ethics than one who has no values or morals.
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    Something no one else addressed, you said you had given notice with 6 shifts left, did that cover the full range of the two weeks? Or was it actually an 11 day notice because 6 shifts happened to fall on that? It is possible, if you gave notice in the middle of the week that you may have not given an official two weeks?
    In my state we are only required to give 2 weeks notice, I frequently give a month or more if possible, and also offer to stay on per diem if I can to help ease the transition, I've never had a bad reference. Although as one other poster said, in the past if I thought it was going to be difficult, I put in my notice right before a 2 week vacation, only did that once though. Good luck OP!
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    Quote from SweettartRN
    Yes. A two weeks notice is dated and old fashioned. We are moving into a world that is lawsuit heavy. Someone calling HR for a reference and they say they are ineligible for rehire, so what?
    So what? It could be the difference between getting the next job you apply for and not getting it. When employers check references and work history -- and they see a history of "ineligible for re-hire," it raises very big red flags that may prevent them from hiring you. It's not worth taking a chance about unless the issue you taking a stand on is huge. In the OP's case, it involves giving a full 2 weeks notice and working 1 more shift as opposed to leaving a day earlier. It's not worth the risk to fight it.

    And to the OP in regards to the manager being "rude." OK, maybe she wasn't as gracious about it as you would have liked ... but really, you shouldn't have expected her to be all smiles and happy about it. You gave a minimal termination notice just before the holidays. After taking their resources to get the training you needed to qualify for other jobs without working for them long enough to be worth their investment in your education, you are leaving them in the lurch just before the holidays and not giving them enough notice to find and orient a replacement. It's not realistic to expect her to be at all happy about that. Yes, she could have been nicer about it, but you need to recognize the seriousness of the problems you are causing for her. Don't judge her too harshly because she let some of her stress show. I'm sure you are not always perfect when handed a new crisis either.
    Last edit by llg on Nov 15, '12
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    My husband always says you should burn no bridges behind you when you leave a job. You can't predict the future. 5 years down the road that place of employment might look pretty good. Some employers put NOT FOR REHIRE on peoples folders. Do you want that over one day?


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