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What ever happened to strong work ethics?

Hmm. Hope you're addressing these problems with your facility Katfoster as it doesn't sound like a fun place to work.

When I speak of limits, I am NOT talking about sitting back, being 'lazy' and not doing my job.....I am just tired of good nurses making themselves ill and burning out for facilities that care little about nurses. And lip service is NOT a caring act.

I'm saying I can't really blame the many nurses who are saying 'no' and putting some limits on their devotion...taking care of themselves a bit more. Maybe some are also feeling 'if ya can't beat 'em, join 'em' when they watch slackers get away with it. I try to motivate my good coworkers but it is hard when managers don't. Some of my managers' 'favorites' are the sneakiest, gossipiest, laziest ones of the group. :(

And I agree that ICU nurses who don't bother repositioning patients are poor nurses...and I've worked with a few. We need to push these people to improve.

Yes there are some lazy, shiftless people out there. But...it is also wrong to solve this problem by browbeating good employees into burnout.

I agree with Mattsmom 81 as I am also a seasoned nurse of 28 years. I gave nursing my all as I was a nurse first. Now I saw myself as patient advacate too and talked to others about how to care for patients and was written up as not getting along well with co-workers and was fired after working for the hospital for over 10 years. It was money. I was making too much and it was used as an excuse to cut the budget as they hired two GVN's and my salary equelled both of theirs I am sure. I have no loyalty anymore to any company now.

some of my pet peevs are managers who exploit good staff because they are too ineffective to deal with the poor staff.....l can't stand those sticky notes ie warnings of the latest transgression shape up or else...these totally turn me off.... means management is to lazy to address the guilty, just get everybody with one mean swipe....do you even know what you are doing to the moral of the staff members who feel like they are so drained from working like dogs cause management can't /won't do their jobs?....and this is setting an example how?

katfoster complains loudly about the staff, and if everything alledged is true...do you understand how inadequate this makes YOU?.....and then there are the managers who actually cowtow to their special friends who are usually the worse transgressors of all......ok, and this motivates staff how?........l would say to you, get over it and manage....that's what YOU are getting paid for!;)

Originally posted by sjoe

chained writes: "I think what some fail to see that are not in management - how much time we have to spend on the people that don't do their jobs. Those people are growing in numbers."

Another way of saying it: management is not exhibiting effective leadership/staff supervision AND "those people" are being hired in growing numbers by interviewers (management) who don't know what they are doing.

A motto for you: "A poor workman always blames his tools."

Woo Hoo!

Wonderfully said.

Originally posted by l.rae

some of my pet peevs are managers who exploit good staff because they are too ineffective to deal with the poor staff.....l can't stand those sticky notes ie warnings of the latest transgression shape up or else...these totally turn me off.... means management is to lazy to address the guilty, just get everybody with one mean swipe....do you even know what you are doing to the moral of the staff members who feel like they are so drained from working like dogs cause management can't /won't do their jobs?....and this is setting an example how?

katfoster complains loudly about the staff, and if everything alledged is true...do you understand how inadequate this makes YOU?.....and then there are the managers who actually cowtow to their special friends who are usually the worse transgressors of all......ok, and this motivates staff how?........l would say to you, get over it and manage....that's what YOU are getting paid for!;)

You go, I. rae!

Mgmt and administrators are the ones who got nursing into the mess it's now in.

You all made your bed, now you are lying in it. Comfy?:chuckle

I have learned my lesson. I've given a company and a supervisor my loyalty, and worked myself like a dog- never saying no when asked to work OT, never missing a meeting, even tho I'd worked all noc and the meetings were in the middle of the day.

The employer used me, and threw me away.

I will never do that again. My loyalty is to myself and to my patients.

The employer does not figure in the equation. All I consider them is an entitiy that provides the building in which I work.

keep in mind the retirement age is going up

and with our growing national debt

will be going up again*

pace yourselves!

*Alan Greenspan suggested an acceleration of increased retirement age just last week

Specializes in Emergency Room/corrections.

hmmmm work ethic?? I have always thought myself to have a good work ethic. I have been in the workforce for 31 years. And I have been in the medical field for 20 of those years, 9 as a nurse.

In my dept right now, we are extremely "manager intensive" we have a fairly new manager, who apparantly felt he was overworked?? so he has hired 2 additional "clinical managers" and add to the already existing 2 clinical managers, makes 5 administrative employees in one department!

Now the problem, these managers are figured into staffing! Guess what? now we are understaffed by working RN's because 4 of them are managers. And most of the managers spend more time out of the department than they spend IN the dept. It is such a mess, I am not going to get into all of the problems, but it has created such chaos and horrible working conditions that people are now quitting or transferring out.

Its not always just the staff nurses that have bad work ethics.

Specializes in Emergency Room/corrections.

HELLLLLO Nurse, you took the words right out of my mouth!! You must work for the same hospital that I do!!

I, too, have been so burned by management that I have NO loyalty to the dept.

Specializes in OR,ER,med/surg,SCU.

boy, i could ride the fence on this one so long i could get saddle sore

i do see the work ethic going down hill. it seems increasingly easier to look around and see people came to work, but dont seem to work as little as possable. these are the people you can not find when things needs to get done now.

. the ones that look busy, but if you ask them what they are doing or watch them, they aren't really doing anything that would not take over 2 min. for the regular smoe to do.

the ones that have time to huddle in the corner and gossip...compain....and spend much time demining other staff.....and all the while acting very important.

i do believe this to be a small minority of nurses, however they do lend a bad reputaion to all nurses, in the eyes of management.

the behaviors they display are also contagious, because after all ,the nurses that are working hard eventually get pretty fed up with them and attitudes go down hill.

with all of this said i do also agree with i.rae it must be soooo much easier to deal with the people with the good work ethic. one of our managers is actualy dealing with the people that have a poor work ethic, it has been facinating to watch. i would no more want to be in middle mangagment that the man in the moon. it has got to be a thankless job. i hope the nurses this manager has approached open their minds enough to listen to what is being said. they may loose their jobs. most are not bad nurses, not bad people, just somewhere lost their prospective. if managment had not taken action, or worse yet did the post it thing blaming everyone, then they would have been poor managers. making the nurses take responsibilty for their own actions, i'm sure is being viewed by some , as somehow displaying poor managment. yyuup would not want to be in management.

Originally posted by JMP

I think we all have to do "what we have to do" . [/b]

:-) You sound like a mafia boss giving advice to a new nurse who is about to "make their bones." :-) Back in the old days, a person may represent a family or other group, and hence, their work ethic would be different. Today is like the "me" generation grown up. All apologies.

Mario

HELLOOOOO??? As many other times when I have read your posts, I have no idea what you are saying. But unlike many other times, you are addressing me and my post.... so what is your point exactly so I can understand your meaning????

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