Lazy and disrespectful Nursing Assistants - page 2

This is a vent post! I just can't hold it in any longer and had to vent somewhere so I figured maybe some of you can understand or offer suggestions. I work night shift on a medical transition... Read More

  1. Visit  Mega hair profile page
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    Some people are lazy and simply don't want to work. Cna's were trained to be assistants, hence their title, the nerve of them to complain, they have the easier job. Can't they get written up or something?
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  3. Visit  lilaclover6984 profile page
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    Quote from Mega hair
    Some people are lazy and simply don't want to work. Cna's were trained to be assistants, hence their title, the nerve of them to complain, they have the easier job. Can't they get written up or something?
    I wish! It seems like management is letting them run the show. Apparently at the last staff meeting the educator was telling everyone ( nurses and NAs) that the nurses need to start helping and that there is no excuse for nursing not helping and blah blah blah
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  4. Visit  tigerlogic profile page
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    As a current CNA and someday nurse, block social media, disallow cell phones.

    Document your specific concerns and get them fired--it's not really likely punishment will lead to better work ethic. There are good people seeking jobs out there. Or if you aren't interested in taking it that far, sit them down and try having a conversation with them. Or look for a different job. Or don't do anything but vent, I guess.

    CNAs should get their breaks. It's a legal necessity regardless of how swamped you are but if it goes beyond that, fight for something better for your patients.
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  5. Visit  lilaclover6984 profile page
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    Quote from tigerlogic
    As a current CNA and someday nurse, block social media, disallow cell phones.

    Document your specific concerns and get them fired--it's not really likely punishment will lead to better work ethic. There are good people seeking jobs out there. Or if you aren't interested in taking it that far, sit them down and try having a conversation with them. Or look for a different job. Or don't do anything but vent, I guess.

    CNAs should get their breaks. It's a legal necessity regardless of how swamped you are but if it goes beyond that, fight for something better for your patients.
    Oh I totally agree everyone should get breaks but this goes Wayyyy beyond that.

    And even their laziness I could let slide a little but it's the total disrespect that realllyyyyy gets to me. There is one NA that will yell at the nurses all the time. She was once getting very forceful and in the face of an agitated pt with dementia trying to make her go back to her roomher. I told her to just leave her alone for now and I would watch her. And she yelled at me "No!! You don't understand, she will wander into other patients rooms" I told her its ok I'm watching her. And she came right up to me and the other nurse swearing and yelled "F%#k!!! I HATE this , nobody ever listens to me!" and stormed off.
    The same NA will come up to me repeatedly in a night sawing " such and such pt. has a cough" I got the info the first time and was dealing with it accordingly. But she kept telling me all night and was all like " isn't anyone gonna do anything"

    Then situation just the other day Of a NA screaming at me at the desk about the schedule .

    Just sooooo much disrespect
  6. Visit  Marshall1 profile page
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    What is "NBD?"
  7. Visit  carsm3 profile page
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    I'm currently in nursing school, but am also a PCA in the SICU. I must say, techs like this give us all a bad name. I know there are a few I have worked with that just dilly dally around all night long while the nurses and other techs are running around like chickens with their heads cut off. It really drives me nuts and is so hard not to get an attitude with them. I suggest that if your NM won't listen then go further up the chain. Usually we go to the charge nurse, then the NM, and if things still don't get fixed then we go to the main nursing office and have a conversation. Usually they are able to scare people into doing their job and if not they just get rid of them. I personally don't even know how these people have time to sit down, I can hardly get 3 minutes to run to the restroom most nights! Between accchecks q2h, turning, changing, bathing, charting, and the other 18748728 things I'm responsible for in the night I am a happy girl when 0715 rolls around. Maybe you could talk to the offender. You don't have to be demeaning to them, however our job description is the nurses ASSISTANT aka we are there to assist you in caring for the patient. Good luck!
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  8. Visit  captain-janeway profile page
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    Quote from lilaclover6984
    "There is one NA that will yell at the nurses all the time. She was once getting very forceful and in the face of an agitated pt with dementia trying to make her go back to her room. I told her to just leave her alone for now and I would watch her. And she yelled at me "No!! You don't understand, she will wander into other patients rooms"

    I'd be reporting the psycho for resident abuse. There's something seriously wrong with your nurse manager if that's tolerated.
    Good luck.
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  9. Visit  SeaGypsy1 profile page
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    Sounds to me like you need some reorganization. You have pretty good staffing for 38 patients, but no one is in charge. The best approach is to go to your unit manager, and then if your aren't satisfied follow your facility's line of communication to the next manager. Change doesn't happen unless unless someone is willing to take a risk and to quote Einstein "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." Good luck, and guess what? "Back when I was a nurse" (I've been a RN for 41 years) we had team work and respect (and we had CNAs)

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  10. Visit  Poochiewoochie profile page
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    You know what's funny? There are a lot of CNA's who can't get jobs because they have no experience. Most places want a year's experience. Maybe these places should change their employment requirements and start hiring the ones fresh out of school-I'm sure they would be more than willing to work for a paycheck.

    When I had my neck surgery I was told not to lift anything. But people on the spine/ortho floor I was on somehow had no clue that I wasn't supposed to. I am a short person and had a very hard time using the high toilet in the bathroom. I had a cervical collar on and had all these new restrictions on how I was supposed to move. I had to back up to the toilet and sit down. The therapy people that came in said to use a step stool yet since I was not supposed to lift anything that was not a possibility. So I used the portable commode in the room. When the tech saw me doing it she got ****** and said emptying it was just one more thing for her to do and ordered me to use the toilet in the bathroom-I was supposed to lift the seat of it up. Mind you, the nurse had already told me it would be okay to use the commode so I went out and had a chat with her. She said she would talk to the tech. I did not like that tech one bit. Her first words to me when we met was she was surprised I was in for another day considering how well I was doing. She's just a tech not a nurse or doctor.

    It's the same way at the NH my Mom was at. Some of those CNA's are so bossy. One thought she ran the unit and not many patients or family members liked her. She was fired for getting abusive with a resident.
  11. Visit  LadyFlamez profile page
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    Check your policy manual for do's and don'ts while clocked in, first...I'm sure it covers no cell phones or internet use unless work related if not it should. Second always have a witness when counseling or reminding subordinates of policies. Gentle reminders may help for a week then old habits will resurface. As a charge nurse you can make it official by doing a quick in service that is required for ppl to sign for not only attendance purposes but legally it reflects "they have been told". In my going on 30 years of nursing ONE major importance make sure you know who is the leader of this issue and they do not not have PULL with the big bosses,lol It is sad to know but true often the bosses family can do as they please. You want to retain your position so be careful.A good CNA is like a good nurse hard to come by. Not all honor the profession like the days of old.

    hope this helps...I'm almost positive the company CEO wouldn't like paying their staff to play games on the internet or cell phone all night long...in my day night shift meant rounds every thirty minutes and incontinent check and re-positioning every 2 hrs..call lights with in 3 minutes...has this changed? If they are doing the job they wouldn't have alot of extra time :}
    Last edit by LadyFlamez on Mar 23, '13 : Reason: spelling
  12. Visit  HopefulAmanda profile page
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    Im sorry your dealing with this. As a CNA who is currently looking for work I would love to take her place!!! Start documenting and fire people who are not doing their jobs.
  13. Visit  SeaGypsy1 profile page
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    I have already posted a comment about dealing with the problem, but I feel that I really need get on my soap box about how we created the problem. The whole thing comes down to respect, and we have created it for ourselves! I started working as a nursing assistant in a hospital in 1968. When I think back to that time, roles were very well defined and there was a chain of command that ended with the Head Nurse who always worked days but was also responsible for all shifts on her unit. Nurses were required to wear white, and they were also required to wear their caps, which they did with pride. Your cap represented hard work and achievement. I graduated from nursing school in 1973 and I donned my cap with pride. Somewhere along the line nurses decided they didn't want to look like a nurse and the tradition was lost. That is when everything started to change. There is no longer the passing of the torch from the Head Nurse to the Assistant Head Nurse. That generally happened because the assistant was learning, and when she assumed duties and responsibilities as Head Nurse she was prepared to do so. Now everyone is a "charge nurse". It doesn't matter if they have had training, and when you walk onto any unit in any facility I challenge you to immediately identify the charge nurse, as a matter of fact, I challenge you to identify the nursing staff!!

    At my facility, the RNs and LVNs all wore white and caps for Nurses Week last year. Amazingly most of us were able to find our school caps. The transformation was incredible! I saw a total change in behavior. I saw nurses carrying themselves with pride and other members of the team interacting with them in a respectful manner. I saw patients amazed and happy that they knew they were dealing with a nurse. I saw visitors smile and stop to comment on "how wonderful it is to see a nurse who looks like a nurse". We now have what we call "Wednesday White". The licensed nurses all wear white and caps, and we continue to have nothing but positive feed back from patients and visitors, and YES I believe that it has started to take us back to a time of respect - not just for the nurses but for each other. Try it, you might be surprised.

    P.S. I wear white every day, and sometimes I even wear my cap when it's not Wednesday.
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  14. Visit  Caffeinated RN profile page
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    As a night shift aide, and based on the number of patients you've stated, I have no idea why your aides seem to have the time to sit around. Sorry you have to deal with this :/
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