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- Feb 5, '11 by MomRN0913Quote from bigrigcowboyVery good response. I would have provided the aide the opportunity to excuse herself if it was safe to do so. Sorry y'all, men masturbate in showers in their homes and LTC is their home.
Yes, they masturbate ALONE in their showers. not while other people are assisiting them care for themselves. There are plenty of times these patient are alone int heir rooms and can whack away. Sorry, sometimes your right to jack off in the shower is gone when others have to shower you. i am seriously disgusted that pleasuring yourself is acceptable infront of others are working to get you clean when you can't do it yourself! Geeze, if you can pleasure yourself, you can wash yourself. He should have asked ot be left alone.
- Feb 5, '11 by mazyQuote from MomRN0913Good point. If he had all of his faculties intact I would wonder how he would think such behavior is appropriate. Do men normally masturbate in semi-public showers when other people are standing around watching them? I think I missed that lesson in sex ed.Geeze, if you can pleasure yourself, you can wash yourself. He should have asked ot be left alone.
If he had cognitive deficits I think you have to consider it a dignity issue -- would he have felt comfortable being observed doing that when he had all of his wits about him. We deal with this where I work, I don't feel all that upset about it, it is a normal activity, but I do feel bad for the patients who are too confused to get themselves to a private place. We just do our best to redirect them.
- Feb 5, '11 by MomRN0913Yes, I agree, if it was a cognitive matter, he should have been redirected to please stop, or when he is alone he may continue on with such activites. Idon't think an CNA should accept this as a part of her job.
- Feb 5, '11 by Ev1987Quote from MomRN0913I can only reply to this as a cna working in ltc. I have encountered residents masturbating, and I was trained that you leave the resident alone and give them privacy at this time. Yet, I was also trained that under no circumstances am I allowed to leave a resident alone in the shower room by themselves. If I was in this scenario, I would ask the resident once to stop masturbating in my presence, and that it is deemed unappropriate. If he continues, then I would simply continue my task of giving him a shower, and move on. But I've dealt with many residents who suffer from dementia and others with a loss of cognitive ability. Sometimes, you can repeat yourself a million times to them, and they just won't 'get it'. Their thought process and how they perceive information is not the same as ours. It's a possibility that he is stuck in his own 'zone' while masturbating, and completely tunes everything and everyone out until he is finished. I don't believe that anyone who can 'pleasure themselves can wash themselves'. Especially, in my facility. I have resident's who can stand, yet not walk. I have resident's that can lift their arm, but not bend it. I have resident's that can talk, but not speak coherently. I do believe that everyone's mental and physical ailment can be unique, although, at times similiar.You seriously think it's appropriate and expected behavior for a guy to masturbate in front of heathcare workers while they are trying to help him because he still has sexual feelings? I guess then it's appropriate for a guy to whip it out in public and start whacking off because he has an urge? Come on now. It should be the last time she ever excounters that, beause if a pt tried that in front of me, I would tell him how highly innappropriate that is and if he wants ot masturbate, he an do that in private. You view on this is disturbing.
- Feb 5, '11 by exnavygirl-RNAnyone who has been a nurse for awhile will have their own stories and their own way of managing certain behaviors. I have had several dementia patients attempt to masturbate in front of me. I would just leave the patient room and shut the door. If they were a psych patient trying to shock me I would just explain to them that the behavior is not acceptable and I'm not impressed.
- Feb 5, '11 by Ruas61Quote from momrn0913if they lack the mental facilities to distinguish between masturbation in an appropriate setting, its not a far stretch that they may lack the ability to perform a cleansing task. the physical acts are not exactly the same and the cognitive component is not the same. masturbation may not be sexual in nature at all- it may be an act of 'comfort' for some fpolks. it feels good and is calming.yes, they masturbate alone in their showers. not while other people are assisiting them care for themselves. there are plenty of times these patient are alone int heir rooms and can whack away. sorry, sometimes your right to jack off in the shower is gone when others have to shower you. i am seriously disgusted that pleasuring yourself is acceptable infront of others are working to get you clean when you can't do it yourself! geeze, if you can pleasure yourself, you can wash yourself. he should have asked ot be left alone.
- Feb 6, '11 by ibrahiemI think that the only solution , is to separate between male & female . ( i mean for male ward only male nurse who can work , female nurse can only work in female ward ) this is my opinion.
- Feb 6, '11 by bookworm78910Thank you for pointing out that agency policy may dictate residents not be left alone in the shower room. That was the policy in this agency, and in this situation that would not have been a safe option. I can't speak to whether the resident had dementia or mental illness or not, but his actions certainly speak for themselves. I'm not saying it's appropriate, just that it happens and redirecting the patient isn't always effective.
- Feb 6, '11 by CapeCodMermaidI work in long term care. We had a guy who was basically nonverbal. He would masturbate where ever he happened to be sitting. One day I said to him, "You have 2 choices. You can stop or you can go to your room." He said as clearly as ever "I'll go to my room."
Three days later I was helping the CNAs at lunch. His wife was sitting at the table with him. She was one of those extremely proper women, dressed to the nines, hair perfect...so there we were at the table...his hands were in his lap....and he started to masturbate. The whole table started to shake. His wife looked around and exclaimed, "Oh, dear. I think we're having an earthquake."
I had to get up and leave the room I was laughing so hard.
This guy was quite demented. If he had been alert and oriented I would have told him to stop. Sexual urges aside, it is never okay for an alert, rational person to masturbate in front of a care giver.