I'm seeing a lot of unprofessional posting here related to venting about patients - page 5

Hi, I'm just a newbie here but I have to comment on what I'm seeing here. Specifically nurses sharing their stories of their interactions with difficult patients. Surely it is unprofessional to... Read More

  1. Visit  netglow profile page
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    This forum has been around since ...well, forever. If you want to hang around, you gotta know that those that have been around for quite some time are usually spot on, even in their criticism. The longer you hang out and the more you read, you will understand. I think even Brian would agree, that although there is TOS, he's not going to make this forum "child-proof" so to speak. What we talk about really has a lot behind it and it's sometimes really the tough things that people who are not in this biz have no idea of and cannot handle. So, we talk with each other here. We are supportive, but we don't suffer fools well.
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  2. Visit  wooh profile page
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    Quote from netglow
    We are supportive, but we don't suffer fools well.
    That's not just the forum. That's nurses in general.
    psu_213, monkeybug, VivaLasViejas, and 1 other like this.
  3. Visit  SionainnRN profile page
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    Quote from kayytaa
    New member here. OP is obviously trying to stir up some drama so I won't even comment on that. I'm a little disheartened by the comments about students, just as I would be about blanket statements about nurses. This is ONE student. Perhaps generalizing is where more drama and feelings get hurt.
    Since you're new here you'll soon realize that there are A LOT of students who come on here with a holier than thou attitude about how nurses should act. So in my opinion the frustration some people have against students on here is very justified.
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  4. Visit  Beautiful Mind RN profile page
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    Quote from netglow
    Yeah, this one is a problem child, there are a few newbie problem children as of late. But, some of them do change once they get good and scared.

    We all can guarantee that this will be nursing's gift for the little chicklets - a come to Jesus moment in their futures. So they might change at some point.
    I have no doubt this little new grad-to-be chicklet will be scared once she gets into the same playing field as the experienced ones. And yes, I mean that with all my heart. But hopefully I will grow from the experience, if and when it happens.

    As for the OP, I too, barely just joined at the end of last year and I must say, I have learned a lot from the nurses and nursing students alike on this forum. That includes their horror/positive stories from their workplace(/school). And from what I have read, most of it has been pretty general, no HIPPA violations. And if there were any, the mods are pretty good about catching it. I think, instead of making this opinion of yours, public and put the blame on EVERYONE who rants here, I think you should have made your concerns known, privately, to the admin and if there were specific users that were bothering you in particular, point it out that way...

    Wrong way to go about things in my opinion..considering...you just pretty much threw yourself to the mercilessness of the wolves.

    In the end, if this place gets too 'unprofessional' for you, then RUN, run far, far away to another forum in greener pastures.
    Last edit by Beautiful Mind RN on Jan 18, '13
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  5. Visit  doomsayer profile page
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    Couldn't disagree more. I think I've read this forum for nearly two years- and any whiff of HIPAA violation is met with a shut-down of that post.
    You come across as a bit naive if this is the focus for your concerns that relate to a lack of professionalism in the field.
    Raewynv, psu_213, nursel56, and 1 other like this.
  6. Visit  joanna73 profile page
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    While students are encouraged to use AN, I feel that if they are going to start accusatory threads such as this, maybe the student should just stay over in the student section of AN and save their energy. Kind of gets a little irritating.
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  7. Visit  nursel56 profile page
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    I just can't imagine being a student of anything and going to "their house" and delivering a lecture, or more accurately, a scolding. I'm thankful I grasped the concept of "don't know what you don't know" before I ended up looking foolish, at least for that reason. I'm sure I've looked foolish for other reasons.
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  8. Visit  strawberryluv profile page
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    I 100% agree with the OP. Sometimes, I read some of the grossly detailed patient information
    here and I cringe. This is such a violation of HIPAA and is extremely unprofessional.
    Patient information should be protected at all cost no ands, ifs, or buts about it.
  9. Visit  joanna73 profile page
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    Any posts which you feel are in violation of terms of service, please feel free to contact the help desk or click the yellow triangle at the bottom of said post. Doing so alerts moderators who will promptly address your concerns. Furthermore, I respectfully disagree that people are regularly violating patient information. I've been on AN for almost 3 years on a regular basis, and I'm not seeing this.
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  10. Visit  SionainnRN profile page
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    Quote from jngo91
    I 100% agree with the OP. Sometimes, I read some of the grossly detailed patient information
    here and I cringe. This is such a violation of HIPAA and is extremely unprofessional.
    Patient information should be protected at all cost no ands, ifs, or buts about it.
    First, it's "no ifs, ands or buts". Second, if you feel so strongly then feel free to leave or report the post. According to your profile you are also a student and your views may change once you're working and dealing with what we deal with.
    Last edit by SionainnRN on Jan 18, '13 : Reason: I accidentally a word
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  11. Visit  TheCommuter profile page
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    Quote from jngo91
    I 100% agree with the OP. Sometimes, I read some of the grossly detailed patient information
    here and I cringe. This is such a violation of HIPAA and is extremely unprofessional.
    Patient information should be protected at all cost no ands, ifs, or buts about it.
    Keep in mind that healthcare workers are allowed to share their stories about patients, families, colleagues, and visitors as long as no real names or other specific identifying information has been divulged.
    KelRN215, **LaurelRN, OCNRN63, and 8 others like this.
  12. Visit  VolMom profile page
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    I've been a nurse 22 years. I definitely consider myself to be a professional with character and high standards of integrity. I do not see anything wrong with venting about patients and situations. Even in graduate school, we share stories of situations we have been in or patients we have had to solve problems with. Protected health information is what cannot and should not ever be shared. There is no way anyone could identify my patient if I vented about a labor patient I had today who spit on me. Just an example.
    OCNRN63, multi10, wooh, and 3 others like this.
  13. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    Quote from jngo91
    I 100% agree with the OP. Sometimes, I read some of the grossly detailed patient information
    here and I cringe. This is such a violation of HIPAA and is extremely unprofessional.
    Patient information should be protected at all cost no ands, ifs, or buts about it.
    As a nursing student just beginning their journey.....it is difficult to understand the nuances of HIPAA. There is nothing in HIPAA that says nurses cannot talk about patients they care for as long as the patient cannot be identified with 2 identifiers. There are even academic waivers in HIPAA that allow academic discussions of patients cases without identifiers.

    As the OP states...in other threads/posts, they are a student as well...it is so difficult to understand the nuances of the profession. When you are on the outside looking in. Caring for the human race is messy.....life is messy. Dealing with the general public for extended periods of time make you sometimes wonder about the future of the human race. ANYONE outside of the profession have a difficult time understanding the frustration and truth of what we do....every single day.

    Many of us see the new faces that enter our world....fresh faced, ambitious....ready to cure the world and stamp out disease. They have amazing insight into the world of nursing and how they are going to save it....and the world. We have also seen that many of these fresh faced individuals who are running so fast to light the fire to cure all that ails the world.....have their flame extinguished too quickly because they are unprepared for the brutality of the everyday grind of nursing.

    As a nurse of 34 years....I can't even begin to tell you how many times I have seen this. Graduates today just aren't prepared for the reality of nursing and are far too judgmental of their fellow man...including the mentors there to help them succeed. Nurses, good nurses, are a special breed.

    I....LOVE being a nurse. For 34 years I have LOVED being a nurse....for all it's flaws, joys, disappointments and resounding failures. We as nurses commensurate with other nurses so we can go back for more tomorrow. Yes...allnurses is public and the public is welcome to read what we write.....nursing is not for the faint of heart and neither is this site.

    What we all need to remember....is that allnurses....
    promote the idea of lively debate. This means you are free to disagree with anyone on any type of subject matter as long as your criticism is constructive and polite....we also ask that you please refrain from name-calling. This is divisive, rude, and derails the thread. Our first priority is to the members that have come here because of the flame-free atmosphere we provide. There is a zero-tolerance policy here against personal attacks. We will not tolerate anyone insulting other's opinion nor name calling.
    Our call is to be supportive, not divisive. Because of this, discrimination, racial vilification and offensive generalizations targeting people of other races, religions and/or nationalities will not be tolerated.
    JDougRN, KelRN215, **LaurelRN, and 9 others like this.

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