Doctor Hassles - page 3

by ThislittleoneRN

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Let me start off by saying I avoid this "nurse practitioner" like the bubonic plague. This "individual" constantly insults all nurses, myself included. This nurse practitioner is rude, unprofessional, and let's be honest, not... Read More


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    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!
    I like to write quotes like that directly into my nurse's notes. Our notes print out on the 1-2 page "daily progress" sheet for each patient. They very much enjoy seeing their words in print at the bottom of the page. So does the chief of staff.

    Yup, done that too. Didn't need to be done more than once either. When the other MDs reviewed the notes for last 24 hours and saw this, it didn't take long for it to get to the Dean of MDs for the hospital. He had to formally apologize to me for his behavior. Love seeing a grown man swallow his pride and apologize to the 'lowly nurse'! :P
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    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!
    I like to write quotes like that directly into my nurse's notes. Our notes print out on the 1-2 page "daily progress" sheet for each patient. They very much enjoy seeing their words in print at the bottom of the page. So does the chief of staff.
    LOL, as long as those are truly exact quotes and are not given out of context, I personally have NO problem with it. What does bother me are those quotes that are somehow misquoted or taken out of context. This can cause big problems. The bottom line is the practitioners, docs, as well as nurses should be carefully of what they say and how they say it, and then document their own quotes in case of conflict. But you don't want to get into some kind of quote wars. That's ridiculous too.

    The NP's comment about nurses was idiotic, and it colored the whole interaction. On top of that, at least in context with the OP, it sounds like she or he (don't remember) didn't really give a damn. If she wanted to practice conservatively, she should have explained her rationale, b/c most nurses do really care about what's going on with their patients, and she should have taken a better attitude and tone. She doesn't sound like she has a cooperative spirit, and this in my opinion is primarily her problem to straighten out--only, for the nurses and patients, it becomes their problem as well.
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    Quote from samadams8
    LOL, as long as those are truly exact quotes and are not given out of context, I personally have NO problem with it. What does bother me are those quotes that are somehow misquoted or taken out of context. This can cause big problems. The bottom line is the practitioners, docs, as well as nurses should be carefully of what they say and how they say it, and then document their own quotes in case of conflict. But you don't want to get into some kind of quote wars. That's ridiculous too.

    The NP's comment about nurses was idiotic, and it colored the whole interaction. On top of that, at least in context with the OP, it sounds like she or he (don't remember) didn't really give a damn. If she wanted to practice conservatively, she should have explained her rationale, b/c most nurses do really care about what's going on with their patients, and she should have taken a better attitude and tone. She doesn't sound like she has a cooperative spirit, and this in my opinion is primarily her problem to straighten out--only, for the nurses and patients, it becomes their problem as well.
    I love your response! This practitioner doesn't give a damn and not one nurse wants to deal with her at all!... it's actually a pretty sad situation, especially for her patients.... Luckily, she doesn't have many at our facility anymore.
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    I have hemmed and hawed about responding but I feel inclined to from the other side of this experience.

    This has really become a question of a chicken vs the egg. Was the NP initially rude to a nurse or was a nurse disgruntled about the NP's plan being different from theirs? It doesn't matter: the fact if the matter here is both sides are wrong. Both sides are perpetuating a downward spiral in work relationships.

    Can the OP honestly say this interaction wasn't jaded by the "other" nurses wide spread dislike of this provider? Is anything really solved by nitpicking and ultimately making this NP apologize? All would be best served, including the patient, if conflicts were resolved rather than escalated.

    Did the NP make some off-color comments? Sounds like it. Which one of you can say you NEVER have?

    As far as the quotes around "nurse practitioner", despite the fact you don't like her or think you know more than her (an perhaps you do), it doesn't change the fact she is board certified, in the end is it more than just petty and disrespectful?
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    Of course, we don't know, b/c we weren't there. In this instance, I am giving the OP the benefit of the doubt. Read her initial post/description. Read the comment that was negative and condescending of nurses in general. This colored the interaction and reflects her attitude and bias. If you give the OP the benefit of the doubt, and read what was said, it's a no-brainer. Also, in order to enhance a team spirit and cooperation, every decent physician and practitioner or PA I know gives sound rationale to a nurse in charge of the care of a patient(at least this has pretty much always been my experience), unless there is an emergency. It shows respect, and again, it helps to foster support and cooperation.

    The NP in the story was condescending and presented as if she couldn't be bothered--if not with the patient, certainly with the nurse, who was concerned about her patient.


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