Discrimination & Whistle blowing - Would you hire this nurse again? - page 5
by SunshineSmile | 15,476 Views | 95 Comments
I was discriminated against when I applied for a job. In other words, a job offer at a hospital was rescinded due to their discrimination against me. I sued them and won. Now my name is all over Google if you search it. A few... Read More
- 0There are enough Jews that would want Saturdays off and enough Christians that want Sundays off. I think it's a fair trade if the Jews offer to work on Sundays for the Christians and the Christians work Saturdays for the Jews. The religious Christians should be happy that there is someone who is willing to work for their Sundays so they could go to church, which is basically what I offered.
- 6Nov 7, '12 by missladyrnI would not hire anyone with a history of filing multiple lawsuits. It is easy to find trouble when you are looking for it. Also you working every Sunday and having every Saturday off means another nurse will UNFAIRLY have to work every Saturday. If you want to practice your religion and it is your number 1 priority over work, choose a job that has hours that accommodate. There are a lot of nursing jobs that do not require every weekend or every other weekend, go get one of those. If you choose to apply somewhere that requires weekends, you should be willing to compromise. The rest of the staff will be effected by you being hired, so I would not hire you. You cannot work the hours of the posted job.
- 0I am Orthodox which does not give me much flexibility in terms of which day I observe as my "sabbath" or "a day of rest." I did ask 3 rabbis about the issue and basically was told that since I am not working in an emergency care setting, it's not considered as a "life saving situation," and because I would be traveling to a hospital(which is not allowed on Sabbath) and "waiting" for the life saving situation to happen. There are emergency medical personnel that are allowed to violate these rules but it didn't apply to my particular situation.
- 0If we worked in the same facility, I could have worked for you. I think this is where people of different faith come to help each other. I am sure there are people who want their day of faith to be off and if someone else has the same situation but for a different day, it is a great situation.
- 4Nov 7, '12 by dirtyhippiegirlQuote from SunshineSmileYou're making unfair assumptions about the characteristics of the unit that you were hired on to. My personal experience with working nights on my small-ish acute/critical care unit is that everyone is willing to work Sunday nights to fulfill their weekend obligation but nobody wants to work Friday or Saturday nights because we're a fairly young unit and people like to go out.There are enough Jews that would want Saturdays off and enough Christians that want Sundays off. I think it's a fair trade if the Jews offer to work on Sundays for the Christians and the Christians work Saturdays for the Jews. The religious Christians should be happy that there is someone who is willing to work for their Sundays so they could go to church, which is basically what I offered.
I did orientation on days and also can't think of anyone who would rather pick up a Saturday over a Sunday for religious reasons.
Just because you're devout doesn't mean that anyone else - Jew, Christian, or Muslim - is the same way.
- 0Actually, my faith does not teach anything against suing those who discriminate. In fact, they teach that those who are careful about observing their religious duties will be rewarded in the afterlife, even if it means loosing one's job.
Having said that, I am not looking into making a "career out of suing facilities" as some people put it. I became a nurse because I want to help people, and moving forward to getting a Master's degree also. It just so happens that my religion has some limitations. If I could just snap a switch and make the limitations disappear, I would. I understand that if this was in a place like Israel where a ton of people observe the sabbath it is competely unreasonable to make this request and I would work on Saturdays if this was in Israel. But here in America, things are different... The fact that the country was established by people who escaped religious persecution... the fact that Orthodox Jews are a minority (statistically speaking).... So the rabbis don't make exceptions so quickly.
I have been looking into a Monday through Friday job but no luck so far... Clinics typically look for medical assistants rather than RNs. Dialysis is good. The ones I've seen want only people with dialysis experience, which I don't have.... M-F surgical offices would be good but haven't found any opening yet.Last edit by SunshineSmile on Nov 7, '12 : Reason: Added text.
- 3Nov 7, '12 by allaboutobThere are always 2 sides to a story. I am tired of hearing "discrimination" when someone does not get their way and trying to turn it on and blame the employer. Nursing may not be the right career for someone who has this mindset. It would be interesting to hear the employers side of the story. Why would someone turn an employer in when while going in to a nursing career, one is aware that taking care of others is a 24/7 job. Nursing is a passion. There are sacrifices one must make if going into a career in the medical field. Grow up...put on your big girl panties and get a different job! Would not hire you!
- 3Nov 7, '12 by Rose_Queen, MSN, RN GuideI think you are expecting too much of your coworkers. You working every Sunday and them working every Saturday- how would that work with weekend trips, nights out on dates or with friends/family? It would mean no free weekends at all, and that's not how these jobs are advertised. If you aren't able to fulfill the requirements, as posted, of the job, then you shouldn't apply. I don't see what you're asking for as a reasonable accommodation- it would be inconveniencing a lot more people than you think. The number of U.S. citizens who associate themselves with organized religion of any kind is dropping- I don't think you'd find enough people willing to create such an agreement as the split weekend shifts. Health care is 24/7/365, and if you weren't told that very early in your education, then your school did you a disservice.
- 7Nov 7, '12 by dudette10Quote from SunshineSmileBecome an ER nurse. Problem solved.I am Orthodox which does not give me much flexibility in terms of which day I observe as my "sabbath" or "a day of rest." I did ask 3 rabbis about the issue and basically was told that since I am not working in an emergency care setting, it's not considered as a "life saving situation," and because I would be traveling to a hospital(which is not allowed on Sabbath) and "waiting" for the life saving situation to happen. There are emergency medical personnel that are allowed to violate these rules but it didn't apply to my particular situation.
- 3Nov 7, '12 by I love my cat!Absolutely I would hire a nurse that has blown the whistle on a facility-and won! It shows me that the Nurse has intelligence, independent thinking skills and nerves of steel. If my facility is implementing fair and proper employment practices, why not? There is nothing to sue. Only people with something to hide and afraid that their can of worms will be opened would be scared to hire a Nurse that takes the initiative against discrimination. I have seen many Nurses discriminated against in my Nursing career. Sadly, they keep their months shut for fear of losing their job. This is why so many places get away with horrible treatment towards their employees. They know that fear and intimidation work.