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- Nov 16, '12 by rubatoIn a perfect world, it would be nice to have nurses who were not on any meds AND who weren't impaired due to anxiety, depression, etc....
We do not live in a perfect world. Every profession is touched by these diseases. I would rather have a legally medicated nurse than one who had major issues but was afraid of a drug screening.
- Nov 16, '12 by MunoRNQuote from StinkMomBombI don't think that informing others of the fact that "what legitimately goes on between patient and doctor should not be held against the Nurse as a future employee" is not how things actually are is making any judgement, that's just what the facts are. We're not supporting or opposing an employers right limit even legally prescribed medication use, just reminding people that's how it is.It's nice to hear a non judgemental nurse finally speak. What legitimally goes on between patient and doctor should not be held against the nurse as a future employee. Shame on the rest of you for being so mean.
- Nov 16, '12 by Susie2310Quote from Esme12Yes, what is reasonable is a good question. I do understand employers feeling a need to err on the side of caution as it seems to me there is no practical way to measure the effects of prescription drugs on employees unless the employees are obviously practicing poorly and/or are obviously impaired. Because one does not have to be obviously impaired for one's judgement to be adversely affected, I understand employers being ultra careful in regards to employee drug testing and hiring employees who take prescription medication. Then there is the separate issue that some nurses do have problems with addiction. Obviously there is a lot of potential liability for the employer. With new hires, the person is an unknown quantity. So I understand employers' caution and I believe it is necessary, ultimately for the sake of patient safety, even when it may be excessive.Agreed....but at which point does their concern become intrusive and biased.
From the individual nurse's point of view, the nurse who believes he/she functions perfectly safely and with good clinical judgement while taking prescription drugs, and who perceives himself/herself unfairly singled out, I don't have an answer. No-one likes to be in this position. As human beings we judge other people to a large degree from our own experience. If a hiring manager has had negative experiences with job candidates who tested positive for X drug or who admitted to taking X prescription drug then likely these experiences will influence their hiring practices.
I agree, we are all imperfect, and all professions are full of imperfect people. The professions though, where peoples lives are at stake, such as medicine, nursing, airline pilots etc. require the bar to be set higher precisely because of the high level of responsibility.Last edit by Susie2310 on Nov 16, '12
- Dec 14, '12 by SadalaJesus Pete. I don't care - I don't care - I don't care. A nurse is a human being and has a right to be on whichever medications she/he and her physician/hcp see fit. Period.
Whatever a nurse is taking should not impair his or her ability at work.
That said, I DO NOT BELIEVE that a benzo or some ambien taken the night before is going to cause the type of impairment which some of you claim. Sorry, I just don't. So then I have to wonder if YOU really believe that or if this is some other type of bias.
I take epo. Can't really make enough blood without it. Anti-hypertensives too. Because I want to AVOID having a stroke someday, I've always kept my blood pressure well under control. I exercise and eat well. Some things really ARE just genetic. But since when are patients, even nurses, supposed to be blamed for being ill? Or worse, blaimed for actually MANAGING their health? Isn't that what we want them to do? Or do we suddenly not believe in medicine/pharmacology when it comes to nurses?
- Dec 14, '12 by SadalaQuote from Susie2310Weird. Practicing poorly or being obviously impaired seems like a pretty good way to measure in my book.Yes, what is reasonable is a good question. I do understand employers feeling a need to err on the side of caution as it seems to me there is no practical way to measure the effects of prescription drugs on employees unless the employees are obviously practicing poorly and/or are obviously impaired.
- Dec 15, '12 by SionainnRNI am absolutely behind the hospital for recinding their offer of employment based on either the physical or drug screen. Just imagine OP that something happens at work, you fall or get hurt in some way or a patient complains about your performance, and you have to have a drug screen and it comes back positive. Do you know how horrible that makes the hospital look? Especially if a patient was injured?
And to everyone saying that people have the right to take medications prescribed to them by their doctor, that is true, but not everyone has the right to work as a nurse. Just because you have worked hard and are smart, doesn't mean you get your dream. Sometime physical limitations win out over dreams.