Dear Family Members - page 3

Forewarning: this is an open letter that contains explicit material with which not everyone will find agreeable. However, these are my inner thoughts. Dear family members and visitors, Let me... Read More

  1. Visit  rnfostermom} profile page
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    "the Monday-to-Friday admin personnel - hereafter referred to as the M-F'ers"

    This straight night every weekend working nurse thinks this particular statement is incredibly funny!!!
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  3. Visit  sugarwahine10} profile page
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    Amen to your letter. I try to "embrace" the patients' families now , I used to try to avoid them. I figure "kill them with kindness", right? It always amazes me how some of the family members can be complaining, swearing, and treating the nurses as sub-human, then when the doctor walks in they are laughing and treating the doctor as if he is the second coming of Christ. It really gets to me when the family member who is nit-picking everything and parks themselves in the patient's room is/or was a nurse. Don't they remember or know what it's like? How busy and stressful working in a hospital is? Then when patients' or their families say, "We don't like this (expletive) hospital!"--then by all means, you should definitely have gone to another hospital & the "my doctors only go to this hospital" is baloney. I don't know of any of the hospital doctors that won't go to any of the hospitals to see a patient. Another family that sticks in my head, is that they were treating the nurses like servants. To the point that one of the daughters, who was sitting right by the seated patient, with two other family members in my way--patient asked for a pillow. She grabbed pillow(right by her, she didn't even have to move), throws it at me, after sighing and rolling her eyes--since I apparently couldn't grab pillow quick enough with people in my way--even though she could have placed it behind patient's head herself(yes patient could move his own head & he was sitting upright in recliner). I understand patients' family are not expected to help, but a pillow? Really?! I wish EVERYONE would have to work in a hospital on the floors in some aspect & get a taste of what it's like. Then maybe people wouldn't be so quick to throw attitudes & be judgmental about how we do our jobs. Our turnover is getting worse on our floor--it is always really busy & it seems the type of patients we are getting are heavier/busier loads. Eventually a lot of the hospital floors will only have new nurses, because no one will want to stay on the floors that long.
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  4. Visit  nurseysarah} profile page
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    Oh my, this just made my night! One thing that gets under my skin are when family members come strolling up the hallway at 0200 talking at the top of their voices to visit their family member. Its 2am! Stay at home! I have your phone number, and I am going to call you if something happens. Let my patients sleep, please!
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  5. Visit  iliveiaminurse} profile page
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    I work in a memory care unit...80 alzheimers/dementia residents. The families that slay me are the ones who are screaming at us about Mom/Dad losing their shoes/diamond rings/flushing teeth down the toilet.

    It's a dementia unit. Mom/Dad has alzheimers....it's our fault they flushed their dentures down the toilet?? Wrapped them up in a napkin and threw them away with dinner? Buried their ring in a potted plant or gave it to the lady down the hall?? I can try to keep an eye on personal possesions, but only to a certain limit. When I do pre-admit meetings I tell these families until I'm blue in the face "don't send Mom/Dad with anything that you don't want getting lost"....and yet they still send them with their original wedding bands or family heirloom jewelery...and then want to give us stink eye like we took it. Makes me a little mad.

    Or they want to blame you if Mom is tired, or doesn't recognize them...."ohh...you must have given them something that made them confused and sleepy".
    I understand an alzheimers diagnosis can be hard to take and it takes families time to cope...but sometimes you just want to shake them!!!!
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  6. Visit  SleeepyRN} profile page
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    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!
    I haven't been a nurse long enough to be jaded by family members but I still am. They are very taxing on your time. I can't think of a diplomatic way to tell them that if I didn't have to argue with them for 20 minutes at a time maybe I would have more time to care for their family member and my other patients. Highlights of this week were arguing with a daughter in law (in law's are the WORST) of a pt in for stroke workup about 1) NPO pending swallow study:"She's already HAD all those tests, she can swallow just fine." "Ma'am unless that was in the last 24 hours we won't be feeding her until we have our speech therapist in to test her again.""AM I GONNA HAVE TO CALL THE DOCTOR TO GET HER SOME FOOD? SHE NEEDS NOURISHMENT, SHE HASN'T EATEN FOR 4 DAYS!" "She's been here for 6 hours, so I can only control the last 6 hours. But I can call the doc-"[doctor steps into the room from hallway] "Ma'am I thought I explained all of this to you. Is there something I said or that the nurse said that you don't understand?" (this is the first time this doc has ever backed me up for anything!)2) same daughter in law tells her mother "Don't you feel better with that oxygen on? Why is it so far down there, we need to turn it up so she can breathe even better.""Doesn't she have a history of COPD? Not a good idea. (explain why)""Yeah well whatever."I suspect Ms. Know It All probably turned it up at the nursing home and caused the low sats and confusion that we're blaming on a stroke. Oh, all of this while pt has documents of DNR-comfort care, and they refused stroke workup, which was the only reason she was transferred to us from small town crappy hospital. I tried to get out of them why she was even taken to the hospital in the first place but couldn't seem to get two sentences out of them without more kvetching about how none of us know how to do our jobs. (Woman is a teacher - we all know they know everything about everything.)I got a good lol because she stayed overnight with the pt and apparently none of our fabulous night shift told the woman that the chair was a hide a bed, she laid all curled up in it, I found out the next day. LMAOSecond was 30 minutes of the last hr of my shift last night with a son accusing us of "giving his mother something," saying she is confused and "she's never like this." Even when being admitted to the hospital. I busted out the chart: "EMS report: family says pt hallucinating, seeing things." "History of dementia." "Admitted for UTI-confusion." Also had the satisfaction (thank god) that not only had we not given her anything but her home meds which weren't anything horrible, but we didn't even have Ativan or anything AVAILABLE ON THE MAR to give her! "My brother said you just gave her something!" "Yeah, a Lasix, which I told them and explained when I was giving it. It's a "water pill" that she takes daily at home according to whoever filled out the home medication list. Not sedating. Not confusing." ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
    So so true that we would actually be able to care for them more and better if they would just let us do our job and not interrupt us every step of the way. Im all for family teaching, but that's not what we're talking about here. And all the complaining! For example, I went into my patient's room. The family complained that it took too long for me to get there, although acknowledging that they knew I was really busy. What did they do? They proceeded to talk to me about their thanksgiving dinner, and the ingredients. All the while all my other patients were waiting for me. WHY WHY WHY do family say that they know I am busy and have other patients but INSIST on continuing to act like their family member is my only patient? I can chit chat while Im doing my work in the room, but as soon as Im done, I need to GO. I know I sound bitter, thats because I am. I deal with it sooo well on the outside, they would never never know how Im feeling on the inside. I have flat out said, I wish I had more time to chat with you, but my next patient is waiting for me. And family members have insisted on telling me "one more thing" before I go. REALLY? I just told you I HAVE to go and you still refuse to respect that?
  7. Visit  SleeepyRN} profile page
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    Quote from ~*Stargazer*~
    While I'm in no way excusing your father's care, I just want to play Devil's Advocate a bit here. The things you describe are symptomatic of staffing practices that directly impact the quality of patient care. When the nurses and aides are stretched too thin, some things fall by the wayside. When documentation requirements are so cumbersome that you spend more time charting than at the bedside, when you're asked to take on more patients and sicker patients with less resources, some things fall by the wayside.As the RN responsible for a group of patients on the floor, there are many things that supersede emptying a urinal or doing a bedbath and linen change. I'm sure you understand this. This is why we have aides to delegate these things to. However, the aides can also be stretched too thin, to the point where patient care falls through the cracks and basic things like oral care aren't even being done.I know, your father's situation was different. You know for a fact that that nurse and NAP (I am not familiar with this term, so I'm assuming it's an aide) weren't busy, they were just being lazy. You saw them sitting around texting/Facebooking/talking on the phone with their friends while call lights were going off. That's not what I'm talking about.Imagine instead that the nurse and NAP are running their tails off just to keep everyone safe and alive, and simply did not have the time to empty a urinal or do a bath and linen change. Neither of them took a break or used the bathroom all shift. Then the next shift comes on and it's the same thing. Pretty soon, several shifts have gone by and these things still have not been done because nobody has the time. Berating the poor nurse who happens to be present when you finally lose your temper just seems a bit unfair, don't you think?Generally, I find that when people are angry, they are angry at the system or the institution itself, but the nurse is the face of that system or institution, and so people take out their anger on the nurse.A solution to the kind of situation your father was in would be for the hospital to have bath aides on day shift, whose sole function is to bathe and do linen changes, freeing the other aides up to do everything else. But in this day and age, hospitals are cutting aide positions, not adding them, so I think it's probably going to get worse before it gets better.Want to improve patient satisfaction scores? Hire more staff!!!!!
    Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting this. I could not have responded better. We have to prioritize and work with what we've got. And by the way, swearing is NEVER appropriate. And yes, I can put myself in the family members shoes. If my mother were in the hospital and not bathed for a week, it is NOT OK for me to swear at the staff. Id like to think I would be intelligent enough to know that its not the nurse's fault. Its the higher ups.


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