Charge nurse asking me to lie - page 4

The other night I had a pt admitted that had a trach. I'm a new grad and have only been off orientation 5 weeks. The ER nurse told me in report that this pt has had the trach for a while and knew how... Read More

  1. by   lmccrn62
    The same lessons our parents teach us about lying follows us our whole lives. Don't jeopardize your credibility and reputation for anyone. Always do the right thing.
  2. by   RLtinker
    OP, I think you did the right thing. But it does sound like the CN is covering her own butt, the real question is why does she feel so desperate to do so?
  3. by   elprup
    Quote from heron
    Yes, for real and seriously. For many of us with somewhat older eyes, tracking through a large block of text is very difficult both on paper and on a computer screen. It is not a matter of being lazy ... it's a matter of physiology.

    And yes, run-on paragraphs, like run-on sentences, are less than effective writing ... ask any professional editor.

    Do we expect professional level writing from AN posters? Of course not, that's silly. Just readable, otherwise why post?
    I am sorry Heron. Maybe you do not realize that there is a glitch in the allnurses system. I have stated this before. When we type from our iphones or ipads, it is all spaced and paragraphed on our end. But when we submit it, it gets bunched up into one big blob. I hope the administrators take a look into this problem, because it really makes us feel stupid when we sincerely are trying to make our posts with correct punctuation and spelling.
    Last edit by elprup on May 11, '13 : Reason: So glad for the apology. I have asked admin to look into this problem.
  4. by   wooh
    Quote from Sugarcoma
    Should you find yourself assigned a patient with equipment you are unfamiliar with start brainstorming immediately where you can find help. In this case you could have asked the ER RN during report. There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying hey I am a new RN what do I need to have in the room for a patient with a trach? If she/he can't tell you start calling. Is there night management? Swat nurses? Respiratory therapists? Even the house doc? How about a floor that specializes in whatever equipment you are getting? I have called the ortho floor for traction, cardiac floor for pacers, renal floor for dialysis access questions, even the ICU for questions. Most of the time a nurse on another floor will be willing to help you out.
    Good advice. We do this all the time at my job. Getting something we aren't familiar with? (Which happens all the time when census gets high.) Call to the floors that are familiar. And if it's a respiratory thing, use the RTs! I've learned so much from our RTs.
  5. by   PacoUSA
    Quote from mclennan
    I suggest you break up that wall of text with some paragraph breaks or shorten your story somehow. A lot of members see a block of uninterrupted text like that and won't read it. I didn't. Too long and daunting and time consuming, sorry. Be considerate of your reader to be a good writer.
    I had to laugh really hard at this ... by the way, OP ... I DID read your post despite the wall of text. You did the right thing, good job
  6. by   julz68
    Quote from Paco-RN

    I had to laugh really hard at this ... by the way, OP ... I DID read your post despite the wall of text. You did the right thing, good job
    It is kinda funny now...funny that they took the time to scold me but didn't have time to read what I posted.
    I was just upset yesterday, so that didn't help things then, but today is a better day.
  7. by   WhereIsMyCallBell
    You were upset and posting from your phone. Good gosh all. Give your fellow nurse a break here. She is looking for guidance and advice not an english lesson, or to be made to feel even worse. Julz, it never ever hurts to CYA! Use your good judgement, but remember to always think it through 1st. Good luck!
  8. by   Esme12
    Quote from elprup
    I am sorry Heron. Maybe you do not realize that there is a glitch in the allnurses system. I have stated this before. When we type from our iphones or ipads, it is all spaced and paragraphed on our end. But when we submit it, it gets bunched up into one big blob. I hope the administrators take a look into this problem, because it really makes us feel stupid when we sincerely are trying to make our posts with correct punctuation and spelling.
    We know about the glitch.....and continue to work on it....I have corrected the formatting of the original post earlier today. Every attempt is made to manually fix formatting as quickly as possible...however this is a large board.

    MODERATOR NOTE! This post has nothing whatsoever to do with formatting a paragraph on AN. It is however about the OP having a situation at work with her charge nurse.

    Again allnurses has a flame free atmosphere and has a zero tolerance for personal attacks. Please stick to topic and be polite....or posts will be removed and points assigned.
    Last edit by Esme12 on May 12, '13
  9. by   julz68
    Thank you Esme12! I was beginning to feel like I was being cyber-bullied. And thanks for removing those posts.
  10. by   julz68
    Well, it has been a week since this fiasco happened and I have been off since. I'm on my way to work in a bit and I'm also a tad apprehensive to see my charge nurse again. I have no idea what was said between her and the NM nor if she went ahead and told her the huge fabricated lie. But, I guess I will find out in a few short hours!
    Wish me luck....I do not feel up to confrontation tonight.
  11. by   jadelpn
    Think not confrontational thoughts. You are a bad liar, you don't make up stories well, and you wuold like to have the knowledge so it doesn't happen again. Period.
  12. by   nursel56
    Quote from julz68
    Well, it has been a week since this fiasco happened and I have been off since. I'm on my way to work in a bit and I'm also a tad apprehensive to see my charge nurse again. I have no idea what was said between her and the NM nor if she went ahead and told her the huge fabricated lie. But, I guess I will find out in a few short hours!
    Wish me luck....I do not feel up to confrontation tonight.
    Beaming supportive thoughts to you as I type this. Remember that you did the right thing. Many years ago as a new nurse I faced an ethical issue with a co-worker and ended up reporting what she did. It is just that much harder with someone who is in a charge position. What you did takes courage and I'd be happy to have you as my nurse or take care of a member of my family.
  13. by   julz68
    Thanks! All of what you said is very true! I am a bad liar, that is why I choose not to, besides the fact that it is wrong and unethical. Thank you for your support!!

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