Can't We All Just Get Along? - page 2
I'll start out by saying I'm a pretty open-minded person, but there are many things I do not and will not ever understand. There's a small part of me that thinks I might have been born in the wrong... Read More
1Nov 9, '12 by Stormy8Very well said! We need to encourage each other not put people down. This is a safe place for us nurses to come to discuss issues and concerns that we might not feel comfortable talking about with other people.
2Nov 10, '12 by Sinman"(deep breath) If ya can't say nuthin nice.......don't say nuthin at all" -Thumper
2Nov 10, '12 by workingharderThere is no secret to being able to get along. Use intelligent and logical arguments, be willing to compromise, and agree that I'm right.
0Nov 10, '12 by VICEDRN, BSN, RNI think sometimes arguments in online forums are fueled by lack of facial expression and tone of voice and a lack of context for the person you are talking to. People seem more readily offended because a sentence can be read and interpreted many ways when not accompanied by facial expression, Etc. Online forums also cause us to come into contact with people we wouldn't otherwise speak to. It is true that especially in politics, I can read posts and just think to myself, "there are idiots out there that think this stuff?" But the great joy is that I have learned through the years that hearts and minds are changed with a short patient post, even if I occasionally lose it and go off.Last edit by VICEDRN on Nov 10, '12 : Reason: Typo
1Nov 10, '12 by GrnTea, BSN, MSN, RNAnother problem is that the perennially-aggrieved can't discern the difference between someone who posts a different opinion on an issue and someone who attacks them. Any disagreement is seen as a personal attack, insult, or slight. Not so, but it's become so easy to say, "That hurts my feelings!" or "That offends me!" and call down immediate negative consequences on the "offending" party by other people who ought to know better that dissenting views are stifled and the quality of discourse has dropped precipitously.
1Nov 11, '12 by BostonTerrierLoverRNQuote from GrnTeaThis is true! And I have been guilty as an offender who let my typers go one time- I was so disgusted with myself that I couldn't take it back, that I highly respected the person I fell below my own standards of character with, and I learned something important from it:Another problem is that the perennially-aggrieved can't discern the difference between someone who posts a different opinion on an issue and someone who attacks them. Any disagreement is seen as a personal attack, insult, or slight. Not so, but it's become so easy to say, "That hurts my feelings!" or "That offends me!" and call down immediate negative consequences on the "offending" party by other people who ought to know better that dissenting views are stifled and the quality of discourse has dropped precipitously.
1. I will never say anything on Allnurses.com that I couldn't say in front of my co-workers.
2. I steer clear of topics I know have the potential of becoming angry with, or sensitive topics that are highly polarized.
3. I respect the opposing view as being "right" for them. What authority do I have to press my beliefs, morals, and values onto another? None.
4. Not participating in wolf packing, already heated debates that are polarizing or totally polarized.
5. Reading the TOS frequently for changes/compliance.
6. Valuing my friendships on Allnurses.com "just-as-important" and valuable as the friends I have in non-cyber life.
7. Realizing that as much as I may Love my point-of-view, it is just that, and may not only be different tomorrow-it could be wrong.
8. Making sure what I write is face value(non-ambiguous) and that it couldn't be misconceived as disrespectful, provoking, or an attempt to derail current OP's topic.
9. Making sure there's nothing that would offend a normal, prudent, or member of the opposite side of opinions.
10. That it's something I won't read next week, and regret submitting.
These are my main guidelines- along with the most overlooked phrase in the English Language, "I'm Sorry", and "I Apologize." I do everything I can not to reach this point, but when my stupid side shows, I have to dust them off, and taste them no matter how bitter they taste, my opinion is NOT worth an Allnurses fellow member being insulted, angry with me, or feeling their view wasn't validated. I have met some of my most treasured friends on Allnurses.com-and I haven't seen a topic yet worth losing even one friend over-or damaging my rep, while I suffer acute attacks of the "Stupids!"
1Nov 11, '12 by Mas CatoerTo the OP, well said.
This kind of thing not limited to many threads I happened to read for references, but also happens in real nursing works situation. My simple thought is nurses by their work, facing so many cases that by "caring" principles suppose to having better judgement in seeing differences if compared to any other profession. Caring principles is best approach to making thoughtful opinions in every discussion regardless being agree or disagree with ones opinions. Feel very sad knowing bio-psycho-sosio-spiritual aspects are very much left as part of textbook to read in the class.
Humanly, I've been expressing some disagreements in clearly wrong way, and it left me feel guilty for the rest of the day. Saying things that put others in uncomfortableness is something that is in the contrary to most nursing outcomes applied to the patients.