Cna-Rn bullying, lies, hiding things on charts

U.S.A. North Carolina

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I know I placed this under nursing and am aware I'm not a nurse but on NcBon so I hope this ok.

Idk where to start (drained). Long story short. Rn Supervisor is bad management here is why.

Memory Care: I approached a med tech with a oral chief complaint from a resident with chest pain. Bp 180/53. She walked off & took it again, said nothing did nothing. He continued with pain she did nothing. I asked her what she was going to do? She said he has heart burn.

2 days later a cna-med texh known bully comes up to me and says " I heard your a liar, and you dont know how to take a bp"? I was speechless. I said well too much & I know this now. But I said & if this other med - tech felt this why are you in here telling me not her. Drama*

2 days later the SAME resident complains of chest pain. Guess what I got the same BP this time different med tech and off he went with a nitro to Ed.

I find out later this original med-tech NEVER charted what I told her. Nothing, zip! I contacted my supervisor on a Sunday k. That same night one of the main bully's I can't find ..hmm guess where she was..in a residents room laying in her recycler chair, watching tv while the resident was on the couch in our main living room.

Monday comes & I still dont hear from Rn and other girls start giving me dirty looks, making stuff up drama*

Next, I see the Rn. Guess what she does. A big group meeting in the SAME AREA where ALL our memory care residents are walking around ok! Saying..NOTHING TO ME? NOTHING?

At her meeting she says nobody should be texting me on a Sun, no drama, bla, bla. I couldn't believe it!

I ended up telling her I will not work the same shifts with a med tech who puts a life at risk on my clock! I will not work with the other ine who sleeps on job in others room and talks about everyone. She said to bad see you tomorriw basically. I told her I wouldn't be showing and walked out.

Idk if this place is all in this together but now I have the DON involved who has put me on a different floor, and while getting there the bully is witnessed in the hallway by others threatening to take me outside and kick my a** in the facility.

Still nothing day 4 days later???? Investigation? And nobody has been fired, nothing? Not even after threatening me? I KNOW this floor is very, very short staffed atm and that is the only reason I am assuming heads aren't rolling? Even though how about this Rn and how she dealt with this?

What am I missing I feel like a deer in the headlights.

What did I do wrong.

Am I suppose to never SPEAK UP FOR MY PATIENTS-RESIDENTS? THIS is insanity

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Lev, MSN, RN, NP

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Specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.

Are you a CNA? If so, your job/responsibility ends with notifying the LPN/RN. (Not med tech since they have no clinical responsiblity). If you are concerned about a fellow staff member you may voice your concerns to your DON/manager but be careful because you can put a target on your back.

chicsurfs, LPN

52 Posts

I did an oral report on a residents high BP it was never charted. Med tech sleeping in a residents bed at night while resident was in hallway on couch. Same med tech verbally threated me to take me out back kick my butt, witnesses. Don already contacted a supposed "inveatigation" being sone.

How is this going to effect me, a residents BP was not charted? 2 days later resident ends up in Er same issue high BP this time dealth with.

Jensmom7, BSN, RN

1,907 Posts

Specializes in Hospice.
I did an oral report on a residents high BP it was never charted. Med tech sleeping in a residents bed at night while resident was in hallway on couch. Same med tech verbally threated me to take me out back kick my butt, witnesses. Don already contacted a supposed "inveatigation" being sone.

How is this going to effect me, a residents BP was not charted? 2 days later resident ends up in Er same issue high BP this time dealth with.

You didn't answer Lev's question.

Are you a CNA? If so, your duty is to report to the patient's RN/LPN, not a Med Tech. You don't mention any report to a nurse.

Forget about the "bullying" and the "drama" for a minute. If you follow the chain of command and give your finding to a nurse, that's where your responsibility ends, unless she gives you further instructions for that patient.

If you didn't report to the right person, that's on you. Own it, make sure you know what you're supposed to do if you're in that situation again, and follow protocol to the letter.

chicsurfs, LPN

52 Posts

I underatand. I "assumed" the med tech wrote it in chart. There is no Rn in this facility at night. I was afraid, new. Now the DON knows. I did however report it days later to the Rn because I "assume"it had been charted by the med tech.

I am hired here as a cna 1.

But a NA 11.

springchick1, ADN, RN

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Why would you report this to a med tech? This is information that needs to be given to the nurse. What exactly is your role? Are you responsible for charting the BP?

Jensmom7, BSN, RN

1,907 Posts

Specializes in Hospice.
I underatand. I "assumed" the med tech wrote it in chart. There is no Rn in this facility at night. I was afraid, new. Now the DON knows. I did however report it days later to the Rn because I "assume"it had been charted by the med tech.

I am hired here as a cna 1.

But a NA 11.

Wait, what type of facility do you work at? If there is no RN at night, who is responsible for passing any PRN meds that might be needed?

You really need to give us some more information-I feel like I'm playing Twenty Questions just to get the little bit you've doled out so far.

chicsurfs, LPN

52 Posts

NO. This is memory care.

My role is to report to the med tech. In NC no LPN, or RN on this floor in the evening.. The MED TECH is suppose to report to the on call Rn. In NC med tech admin narcotics Sublingual cannot push. It's crazy. 2 week course.

I had nobody to report to again but the med tech. Please do reaearch on med tech in NC.

Now, when I found days later and it happened again. I reported her for NOT charting it and calling the Rn i had no idea. I didnt know if he had BP issues, taking meds..extra. Only med tech knows this.

Not my scope!

chicsurfs, LPN

52 Posts

That is the way it works here at the facility. IF there is a problem the MED TECH is reaponisble its HER licence not mine. Unless I neglect, abuse, extra. MED TECH is who ALL CNA'S report to.

chicsurfs, LPN

52 Posts

Were NOT allowed to chart. Again, all reportas - prn vitals are made to the med texh idk how many more time to say this. Knowing this sounds off. But in Memory care and assisted living med techs in NC are who we report to.

Jensmom7, BSN, RN

1,907 Posts

Specializes in Hospice.
That is the way it works here at the facility. IF there is a problem the MED TECH is reaponisble its HER licence not mine. Unless I neglect, abuse, extra. MED TECH is who ALL CNA'S report to.

Ok, I'm officially done with this. The spelling and grammar errors alone are giving me a headache.

OP, your attitude leaves much to be desired. Not a good idea to take that tone of voice and tell people to research information that YOU should be providing.

So, apparently you reported to the person you were supposed to. Do you do any CNA documentation? If so, I hope there's s place for you to indicate that you notified the MA. If not, it's your word against hers, unfortunately.

Also, you are not a licensed healthcare worker. You have a certificate.

chicsurfs, LPN

52 Posts

You are rude & not professional at all. . We are all on the same team. Btw, I'm French & I won't engage in this insult regarding my spelling or grammer. This was a question to professionals regarding a resident and his safety. Do you feel better now for putting me down and attacking my spelling? Go find someone else to bully. Grow up!

I also felt nothing wrong with saying research it. I myself am lost with how this facility works or I wouldn't be asking this question!

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