Question about crystal meth - page 2

No I don't want any! But here in the midwest we are seeing more & more young mom's hocked on this. Often times the baby's mec screen is neg...but mom was positive...I understand the half life is... Read More

  1. by   KRVRN
    It's interesting how Costco stores and such that sell stuff in bulk don't sell sudafed in bulk, because you really are limited on how much one person can buy at once. And if other stores ever have a sale on the stuff, they limit howmany packages you can buy. I'm sure the other ingredients that you need are limited too, but I don't actually know what else is used.

    Is benzene used? Cookng meth sure does smell like a cross between benzene and insulin. My neighbors got busted for it once, and you sure can smell it. Is San Diego still the meth capital of the country? I think it used to be.
  2. by   BRANDY LPN
    One other ingredient is sulfer ( i think) the kind that is on the tips of matches. My mom's bf was on jury duty and that is what he said the prosecution told them.

    Edited to add it is red phosphorous not sulfer, out of suriosity I googled meth recipes, and LOL this is what I came up with: http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/speedy_drugs/165183.html

    Note the disclaimer, um yeah right...
    Last edit by BRANDY LPN on Feb 15, '05 : Reason: adding more information.
  3. by   kitty29
    I certainly have gained a good deal of knowledge. When I tried a search the other day I saw that they were going to be doing some research on the effects on infants in HI.
  4. by   FutureNrse
    When I was in college, getting my degree in social services, some of the required courses were about drug abuse. Those courses kind of overlapped with the courses for the chemical dependency program, and I was shocked at how many of my classmates were former meth users, and most of them were women. In an average class of about 40 students, maybe 3 or 4 of us were not recovering addicts.
    It's become a trend for addicts to become counselors, and there is even a school of that that insists that only an addict can effectivelly counsel an addict. I think that's ridiculous. When internships were assigned, I ended up at a rehab for women. I was the only person there who wasn't in recovery for some thing or another. Even supporting staff, like receptionist, was a former alcoholic. What really struck me was how the former meth addicts never seem to lose their drug behaviors. It's as if they never really snap back 100%, and even more sad is that they can't see it. I made the mistake of asking a fellow counselor if her drug mannerisms were still diminishing and she was offened, insisting that she didn't have any drug mannerisms. She went on to point out another employee and say " SHE does have drug mannerisms, but I don't"
    With some subtly questioning, I realzed that they cannot see it in themselves, but can see it in others. Weird.
    I was glad to finish that internship, I make a lousy counselor for addicts. I just wanted to scream at them to stop whining and put down the crack pipe. :uhoh21:
  5. by   kitty29
    Quote from FutureNrse
    I was shocked at how many of my classmates were former meth users, and most of them were women. there is even a school of that that insists that only an addict can effectivelly counsel an addict. I think that's ridiculous. never seem to lose their drug behaviors. It's as if they never really snap back 100%, and even more sad is that they can't see it. I realzed that they cannot see it in themselves, but can see it in others. Weird.
    :uhoh21:
    I see the point kind of to have former addicts cousel addicts(one knows best from an experiece)...yet I agree with so many of your other statements and here is why:

    From the little reading I've done so far, it seems that crystal meth causes brain damage from the very first hit...so I don't think people could snap back fully ever...that's the truely heart-breaking thing about it all. Here are these ussually young people never learning how to cope effectively with life (not that I fully can either). And it must take quite a journey for someone to see any type of defficiency in themselves...denial and all.

    Thanks for sharing...are you still in social services???
  6. by   NoCrumping
    Quote from FutureNrse
    When I was in college, getting my degree in social services, some of the required courses were about drug abuse. Those courses kind of overlapped with the courses for the chemical dependency program, and I was shocked at how many of my classmates were former meth users, and most of them were women. In an average class of about 40 students, maybe 3 or 4 of us were not recovering addicts.
    It's become a trend for addicts to become counselors, and there is even a school of that that insists that only an addict can effectivelly counsel an addict. I think that's ridiculous. When internships were assigned, I ended up at a rehab for women. I was the only person there who wasn't in recovery for some thing or another. Even supporting staff, like receptionist, was a former alcoholic. What really struck me was how the former meth addicts never seem to lose their drug behaviors. It's as if they never really snap back 100%, and even more sad is that they can't see it. I made the mistake of asking a fellow counselor if her drug mannerisms were still diminishing and she was offened, insisting that she didn't have any drug mannerisms. She went on to point out another employee and say " SHE does have drug mannerisms, but I don't"
    With some subtly questioning, I realzed that they cannot see it in themselves, but can see it in others. Weird.
    I was glad to finish that internship, I make a lousy counselor for addicts. I just wanted to scream at them to stop whining and put down the crack pipe. :uhoh21:
    I agree, , esp re: the mannerisms... I have a sil who has supposedly been clean for 10 yrs, not sure from what drug, she owns her own house, her own business, etc, and she still acts like a crack addict. It just doenst go away....And she insists she doesnt have these characteristics, but points them out in others........
  7. by   NoCrumping
    Quote from kitty29
    I certainly have gained a good deal of knowledge. When I tried a search the other day I saw that they were going to be doing some research on the effects on infants in HI.
    Sorry, but please indulge me: I dont actually know what you "do " with crystal meth.... , smoke, iv, pill? A llittle bit street drug illiterate, I am.
  8. by   kitty29
    Quote from NoCrumping
    Sorry, but please indulge me: I dont actually know what you "do " with crystal meth.... , smoke, iv, pill? A llittle bit street drug illiterate, I am.
    Someone wrote above, but I think mostley it is smoked?
  9. by   kitty29
    Quote from NoCrumping
    I agree, , esp re: the mannerisms... I have a sil who has supposedly been clean for 10 yrs, not sure from what drug, she owns her own house, her own business, etc, and she still acts like a crack addict. It just doenst go away....And she insists she doesnt have these characteristics, but points them out in others........
    It's so sad what we can do to ourselves isn't it? I was reading some the sites mentioned and in OR they are talking about how they are setting up groups/tax forces to get something done within the community.

    One would think education is key. Also the site talked about how the drug companies haven't acted even tho this is a problem due to the money they are raking in----the make my blood boil!

    Do you guys think it would be stupid to write or talk to someone in law inforcement to see if one could help on the medical end? Any ideas??
  10. by   BRANDY LPN
    What do you guys mean by "drug mannerisms"?
  11. by   kitty29
    Quote from BRANDY LPN
    What do you guys mean by "drug mannerisms"?

    I cann't speak for the others, but what I mean is acting a few cards short of a full deck.
  12. by   catlover314
    Also for "drug mannerisms" our sheriff's dept gave an update to the medical staff and said to watch for picking at the skin. The meth metabolizes through the skin and causes "Meth bites" that look like bug bites and itch.

    Has anyone heard of any connection b/t meth and lower levels of amniotic fluid? Was wondering, if meth dries up the mouth, could it impact other things in the body (like amniotic fluid) as well? I've seen some meth moms with oligohydramnios but don't know if that was general poor health or if it was somehow r/t the meth itself. Can't find any good research in a very abbreviated search on line.
  13. by   Mandylpn
    Part of the problem is that it is relatively cheap to make, and made out of stuff anyone can buy, like brake cleaner, cold medicines and whatnot.

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