Night shift naps - page 5

A BIG no-no...but some RN's still do it. And, for the most part get by with it. HOW? It is embarrassing to the unit when there is a float nurse not to mention the alarms answered on their behalf. ... Read More

  1. by   kitty29
    Quote from GoingHome
    I've read different research on night shift workers and napping. Several studies show that you get a much safer nurse if you allow them to sleep during night shift. Obviously as their break. The last place I traveled to, encouraged naps. It was an ICU, and each person relievedtheir counter part. These naps would be 45 minutes. I couldn't believe it.
    Why?
  2. by   kitty29
    Quote from abu1030
    SLEEP! Are you kidding me? I barely have time to use the bathroom, and eat let alone sleep! I think my head would explode if I caught someone sleeping...Who are these people? How can they possibly think this okay? WOW!! This is completely amazing to me. The ICU that I work in does not have any place that someone could possibly curl up and sleep in...That is just crazy!
    Glad I don't have to work with you...honestly! What you do on your break is up to you...and part of me as I've said wonders why insted of blasting fellow nurses who are treated right...why insted are you not insisting that you are treated correctly?
  3. by   NurseyPoo
    Quote from kitty29
    Glad I don't have to work with you...honestly! What you do on your break is up to you...and part of me as I've said wonders why insted of blasting fellow nurses who are treated right...why insted are you not insisting that you are treated correctly?
    I would never Blast someone for napping on their break. What I was talking about was a nurse who naps when not on break. Why would I blast someone for napping on their break? Why do you think that I am not treated right? And, why do you think that working with me is bad? We all work as a well oiled team in my ICU. We are a Trauma Center and the level of care is pretty intense...All I was stating that there is barely time to eat and relax...there is not time to sleep. Sorry if you feel that I am insensitive, and sorry that you feel that I am not a person who cares about her fellow workers.
  4. by   RainDreamer
    Quote from kitty29
    Glad I don't have to work with you...honestly! What you do on your break is up to you...and part of me as I've said wonders why insted of blasting fellow nurses who are treated right...why insted are you not insisting that you are treated correctly?
    I agree. Honestly, I'd rather have a nurse taking care of me that takes time to take a break and rest/sleep, rather than one that doesn't even take a few minutes to take a break and go to the bathroom.
    Last edit by RainDreamer on Sep 20, '06
  5. by   NurseyPoo
    Quote from NiteRocker
    A BIG no-no...but some RN's still do it. And, for the most part get by with it. HOW? It is embarrassing to the unit when there is a float nurse not to mention the alarms answered on their behalf. Noone wants to be a snitch, but it's always the same people...night after night.

    Management must know about the problem, but what is done. I know discipline is sometimes unknown, but come on. I get tired too. I have kids too. I plan accordingly, so that I can sleep...for the most part.

    These are my friends/co-workers. It's not fair for morale between night shift and day shift to be torn down because of a few offenders. Yes, they know.

    How is this handeled in your unit?
    If you read the original post it is implying that nurses are napping during their shift. NOT on break! I was simply responding to that fact. If a nurse has a 45 minute break I think it is great that he/she can nap. I personally cannot because I need complete quiet and darkness in order to fall asleep. I was only responding to the offenders. Why you seem to think I am such a terrible person is beyond me. I get along great with my co-workers and we all work incredibly well together. You seem to be taking this completely out of context. I am not unsafe and I am not difficult to work with. I cover people all of the time during my shift so that they can use the bathroom or eat something or run to the credit union or whatever...Why is it that you think I am such a terrible person? I work in a trauma center, and therefore we are extremely busy. Breaks are sometimes not an easy thing to take. I am not alone with this thought. We all try to help each other but the simple fact is that there is a shortage and at times we are just way to busy to stop and take a 45 minute break. We get 1/2 hour for lunch/dinner and two 15 minute breaks in between. They do not allow us to take all of our breaks combined.
  6. by   Gompers
    Quote from abu1030
    If you read the original post it is implying that nurses are napping during their shift. NOT on break! I was simply responding to that fact. If a nurse has a 45 minute break I think it is great that he/she can nap. I personally cannot because I need complete quiet and darkness in order to fall asleep. I was only responding to the offenders. Why you seem to think I am such a terrible person is beyond me. I get along great with my co-workers and we all work incredibly well together. You seem to be taking this completely out of context. I am not unsafe and I am not difficult to work with. I cover people all of the time during my shift so that they can use the bathroom or eat something or run to the credit union or whatever...Why is it that you think I am such a terrible person? I work in a trauma center, and therefore we are extremely busy. Breaks are sometimes not an easy thing to take. I am not alone with this thought. We all try to help each other but the simple fact is that there is a shortage and at times we are just way to busy to stop and take a 45 minute break. We get 1/2 hour for lunch/dinner and two 15 minute breaks in between. They do not allow us to take all of our breaks combined.
    I think there was just a bit of confusion. Somewhere along this thread it went from talking about nurses sleeping DURING their shifts, to nurses sleeping on their breaks. We've pretty much agreed that the former is of course unacceptable, but the latter is fine.

    I find that when a thread has gotten pretty long (this one is already at six pages) and you're writing a reply to the original poster or someone from the beginning of the thread, it's best to quote that early post so people know what exactly you're replying to. When threads grow, the topic starts to evolve over time, and quite often it gets confusing. Just a tip for everybody!

    As far as breaks go...

    Maybe I'm assuming too much, but it seems like NICU nurses tend to get their breaks more often than nurses from other specialties. I personally think it has a lot to do with the fact that there are so many nurses working in such a small space, as many of our units are open and you can be working side-by-side with a half dozen nurses at any given time. When there are that many people around, it's a lot easier to take a break because you take turns covering each other's patients. It's just a very flexible environment, plus these babies tend to be busy for an hour or so when their vitals and treatments are due, then we let them rest for several hours and don't touch them at all, so there is often downtime in which we are easily able to take breaks. It's just a different environment. The nurses I work with who used to work in adult ICU say it's much different than what they were used to.

    Dare I say we're spoiled?
  7. by   kitty29
    Quote from abu1030
    I would never Blast someone for napping on their break. What I was talking about was a nurse who naps when not on break. Why would I blast someone for napping on their break? Why do you think that I am not treated right? And, why do you think that working with me is bad? We all work as a well oiled team in my ICU. We are a Trauma Center and the level of care is pretty intense...All I was stating that there is barely time to eat and relax...there is not time to sleep. Sorry if you feel that I am insensitive, and sorry that you feel that I am not a person who cares about her fellow workers.
    I am sorry....I obviously misunderstood...It did sound the other way if you'd re-read your post. You would agree wouldn't you that IF you felt the other way you would not be treated right....see what I"m saying. I came off insensitive also....I'm sure you're a swell nurse! I just don't like to see my fellow nurses being taken advantage of thinking it is OK not to be give a break...and it sounds like many are in that situation.

    Peace?
  8. by   kitty29
    Quote from RainDreamer
    I agree. Honestly, I'd rather have a nurse taking care of me that takes time to take a break and rest/sleep, rather than one that doesn't even take a few minutes to take a break and go to the bathroom.
    Thanks for understanding what I am trying to say. Gosh nurses work so hard; and Need to take time away even on the worst nights...it clears your head.
  9. by   maryshome8
    Quote from prmenrs
    I have been called for an emergency night shift (late in the day, "Please can you work tonight"). I'll say yes, but tell them up front I'll need a nap. That isn't a problem if they're desparate!!

    I'll just go into the parent room for 30min to an hour, they'll come and get me if there is a problem, adn they don't mind. They are happy they are not working short!

    But I think that's a different situation than what you're describing, which is a chronic abuse thing. I'd suggest taking that up the chain a bit. If they are willing to tolerate it, than you're stuck.
    See, I think that's awesome that they are willing to work with you when they ask you to come in at the last minute.

    My mom worked the 3rd shift my entire life...My job was to wake her up when I got home from school. I still remember, if I got sick during the day when I was in school, how they had to let the phone ring more or call back b/c she was asleep so they phone would wake her up.

    She slept for another hour, 8:30 to 9:30 before she got ready to leave every night..and when we were kids...Mom broke out a can of whoop-a$$ if you woke her during that hour
  10. by   hica19
    I am a new grad nurse who just started working night in pediatrics 3 weeks ago (and I love it!). At the hospital I work at, people are allowed to take naps during their scheduled breaks. There's these couches in the break room where people can sleep on. However just in my personal preference I don't take naps. I'm just not a nap person. I get headaches if I nap. Besides by now, I'm so used to the night shift that I don't feel tired until I'm officially off shift and back inside my apartment.
  11. by   elizabeth321
    Quote from alb123
    I'm in a class of 8 new grads. We have 40 weeks of orientation and are in our 4th week in the NICU. One of my peers, her preceptor leaves her alone with their assignment and sleeps. Not only rude and unprofessional, but unsafe and embarrassing!!!!!!
    This is a different issue entirely.

    Eliz
  12. by   lencialoo
    alb123

    I am also a new grad. (one of 8 in our class too). I also have 40 weeks of orientation and am in my 7th week for the level II babies. I just started my rotation to night shift. After having a wonderful preceptor for days and starting to feel a bit more comfortable with my skills I now have a new night preceptor who slept for several hours off/on during my 1st night on, her napping was in a quiet corner of the unit but we did very little precepting. She took 1 baby and gave me 3 with very little help. My night was very stressful and I didnt get a break until 4am (not even to pee...funny how you can go almost 9-10 hours while on a shift but can't make it over 2 hours in class :-) ). On top of it all she is a type A personality and not very patient, has some little nasty comment when-ever I dont do something to her expectations. My self-esteem just did a nose-dive. I had to talk myself into going in the 2nd night but I got through it and she wasnt as bad and only napped for a short period and wasnt as much of a "nursezilla" the 2nd night. I just try to let it roll off and when I feel that patient safety is at risk I tell her I'm not comfortable doing a procedure by myself. Everyone seems to like her and she can be very funny at times so I'm trying to hang in there, plus she has great intuition when it comes to the little ones... I'm just hoping the napping was not a normal thing for her and she was just very tired that day.

    The good thing is that I found I'm very much a night person and love the night shift hours and so far - 4 days I have not felt tired except at the very end of my shift and have never caught myself even tempted to nap.

    I did speak with our Ed. coordinator not to be a rat but to let her know what was happening. It's always good to at least give someone a heads up about your situation just to cover yourself and in case things get worse.

    Hang in there with your orientation....thanks for posting your problem, it helped me to know I wasnt alone....I hope you also know you arent alone and others understand what you are going through and dont agree with napping like this.

    Take care of yourself.
  13. by   33-weeker
    i think naps on break time should be allowed as long as you are back on time and alert. i know some places don't tolerate that, though.

    i find that a power nap of anywhere from 15-30 minutes, if i get the 3-4 am sleepies, can make a big difference.

    now, mind you, i work in a small level 2 (1/2) unit, and would never do it with visitors present. the type of nap i'm talking about is the close-your-eyes-head-on-desk-relaxed-but-hearing-alarms type.

    the thing that helps - besides rewetting dry, red eyes - is that my muscles relax and my heart rate slows. i drag a bit when i first get back up, but once i get moving again, i feel much better. i also am more alert driving home after a wee hour power nap.

    as to day shift arriving late - it's my pet peeve, too. about 90% of tardies where i work occur on day shift - some arriving after 7!

    my dad used to say, "being late is as much of a habit as being on time." you chose your habit.

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