Quote from thomasc
I went to an Informational at Hunter College today for the Accelerated BS in Nursing program. Seems like I need to take a few more pre-reqs before applying. At the Informational, someone asked about employment rates of graduates. The instructor said that hiring is down, and it may be better to look for work outside of the city (like long island or upstate) for a couple of years, then try to find something in NYC after gaining experience. So, what is the reality of jobs for new RNs? I would hate to take all of the pre-req's for a program that I may or may not get into, then find myself not able to find work. I am also looking at SUNY Down State (similar requirements), and Lehman (may only need one class to apply here). I would love to hear from recent grads on their experiences in finding work.
Thanks for any input.
Can only say the information given to you at Hunter's informational was spot on and refreshingly honest.
NYC nursing programs
are and have been full to capacity with applicants and graduating steady numbers of nurses for the past ten or so years. Problem is the local employment market has changed for RNs and in particular new grads that there just isn't anywhere near the amount of hiring going on to absorb all the grads from one class/year, and yet more still follow six or twelve months later.
What has happened?
Over the past decade ten or more acute care hospitals have closed in NYC including the entire Catholic Healthcare System's facilities in Queens and Manhattan even their flagship Saint Vincent's in the Village.
Each time a hospital closes it not only means less inpatient beds or services to employ nurses, but displaces hundreds of experienced RNs who now must hit the streets looking for work. There were RNs from St. Johns, Mary Immaculate and the other facilities that made up Saint Vincent's healthcare network that hadn't found full time work when just a few years later Saint Vinny's went bankrupt and suddenly closed, followed quickly by North General in Harlem.
When the last bit of hospitals closed, most NYC facilities annouced they would freeze hiring new grads in preference of offering any available spots to experienced nurses from St. Vinny's etc. That was almost over two years ago now but a few other things came along; the financial/credit crisis and "Obamacare", both of which exposed the often dire financial situation of many NYC hospitals.
Inpatient census counts have plummeted in many places, along with reimbursements from federal and private payment plans. Long story short hospitals are having to learn to do more or equal with less and that affects staffing.
Finally there are the more generic and long term changes to both the profession and healthcare in general. Things such as the push towards more community/in-home care versus hospitals, shorter inpatient stays and reduction of readmissions as well. Hospitals also are becoming more "efficient" in how they staff/use professional nurses. And finally the what seems to be the push for BSN prepared nurses over ADN at least for new grads.
My standard advice today is that if anyone wants to become a nurse out of a passion for the profession, then by all means go for it. Long as one has the grades and core compentency skills sooner or later you'll land that first gig after school. It may not be where or what you want but everyone has to start somewhere. *LOL*
OTHO anyone considering the nursing profession because they need a quick way to earn a living had better think again. The days of whizzing through a ADN program, graduating and finding a job in say less than three weeks are pretty much over.