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- by RNFromNY Nov 11, '09Hi, all. Anyone out there familiar with New York Presbyterian's application process? I'm a new grad and applied to about 13 open positions at basically all of their sites in various departments a couple of days ago. I applied through their site separately for each position. I got one response back so far, from Catherine Roberts (HR? Nursing Manager? Recruiter?), saying they reviewed my resume, haven't chosen me to interview at this time, yadda yadda yadda. Just wondering if you know whether that is a blanket response to ALL of my applications at once, or if this is one response to ONE application, and I may still be in the running for other positions I applied to. If you know who Catherine Roberts is, it might help clarify it. Thanks so much!!!
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- Nov 12, '09 by sachi2Hey I got the same thing. I think they are basically looking for nurses with BSN. I am convinced that they don't need new grads, I am not a new grad and I have applied to so many post they had and that same name sent that exact mail saying i wasn't chosen at this time for an interview. After wasting time applying for so much of their positions I thought I would get a positive response
- Nov 12, '09 by RNFromNYSo, you only got one response to your multiple applications? That's annoying. Makes me wonder if the applications even get past their HR gatekeeper to the nurse managers, who know best what their needs are, obviously. I don't know if it's the ADN/BSN thing or not, because I have a Bachelor's in another field, many years of executive work experience and just earned my ADN for a career change. I would certainly hope that they would recognize the added value of a seasoned professional!
- Nov 13, '09 by fawnsternurseQuote from RNFromNYI am not sure they do. Someone there in HR needs common sense!So, you only got one response to your multiple applications? That's annoying. Makes me wonder if the applications even get past their HR gatekeeper to the nurse managers, who know best what their needs are, obviously. I don't know if it's the ADN/BSN thing or not, because I have a Bachelor's in another field, many years of executive work experience and just earned my ADN for a career change. I would certainly hope that they would recognize the added value of a seasoned professional!
I have worked with Mastered degreed Nurses who were psychotic and manic. Its not all about your degree. I would rather they offer personality tests and tests that determine ones ability to work as a team member than all of these pharm tests that are not good indicators of what a person truly has to offer a unit.
Just my two cents.
- Nov 13, '09 by RNFromNYI'm laughing out loud here, because you're probably completely right. I worked with one nurse during a rotation at a major area hospital--she had "decades of experience" yet was completely mentally unstable, and others at various institutions who refused to wear gloves or follow isolation precautions, and many who couldn't write a coherent sentence, communicate with patients or make any intellectual connection between a patient's diagnoses, symptoms, MD orders and their own actions. I've been saying since I started nursing school that these programs should incorporate even the most basic components of business and management-aside from simple delegation. You wind up churning out task-oriented nurses who may not understand their pivotal role in the growth of a business. I realize HR thinks they're avoiding this problem by hiring BSNs instead of ADNs, but you can't discard hundreds of applications from nurses who may have multiple degrees and decades of successful professional experience simply because their nursing degree says "Associates" and think you're getting the best nurses available. I think they might believe they're getting more "moldable" nurses who they can turn into mini-me's-which as we've already discussed, may NOT be ideal for the patients or the hospital.
- Nov 13, '09 by guiltysinsMy dad works at NYP: Columbia Presbyterian and he said he heard that people with a BSN or enrolled in a BSN program were "preferred". I'm not positive of how accurate this is but it isn't the first time I heard it.
- Nov 16, '09 by RnM21I recently went to their open interview day back in sept. for CTICU. I have been a CCU/Cath lab nurse since 2005 and have now for a year been a SICU nurse for HUMC, but still do ccu/cath lab per diem. Everything went great; met the manager, toured the unit and spoke with staff RNs. Even helped boost and turn patients during that time because they were short. All in all I thought I pretty much had it in the bag and spent about 2 hours just chatting with CTICU RN's and even the docs. Low and behold went through the whole process of background checks etc... my current manager even asked me if I was leaving because NYP called him up. CTICU manager even followed up and asked when I can start, gave me pay details and benefits. In the end got a call from HR saying because I was ADN and even though I am in a program for BSN I was not hired. Im not saying I was the best there that day nor was it just for one position they were trying to fill, (they were looking for 11 RN's since NYP columbia expanded their heart hospital). But i guess it goes to show BSN's are now the norm, I did my best, even had letters of Rec's from cardiologists and trauma docs I work with. In the end of the day the degree will take the cake. On a side note the manager said he would keep my info and resume so re-application would be easier in a year when I attain my BSN.
- Nov 16, '09 by RNFromNYWow...I'm sorry. That's just downright crappy. I'm speechless and in disbelief that (A) your fabulous clinical experience, references and interviews weren't enough and (B) they didn't bother to notice you didn't have your BSN yet before they put you through all of that!
- Nov 27, '09 by paulpat9oh no pls...i've got the same reply from all my applications.and i have BSN.i think what they are lookin for if your in the same specialty for years.yes that catherine m roberts.i hope she know how to screen employees.
- Nov 27, '09 by KeepingItRealEeyoreTrying to get into NY Presbyterian is like trying to get in to Fort Knox. my nursing degree is an associates, and I have a Bachelors in a science . I keep applying and get the same email. It is a generic rejection email because one time I got an email where the sender's name didn't match the name of the person who was listed on it.
To me that was just laziness. I also ask for feedback and get nothing in return.
what is scary is that I'm licensed in NY and another northeast state and can't find a job. It is to the point I'm looking into Rn to BSN programs . All I know is it cost money, money that I was hoping an employer would help supply.
I really don't understand when the huge thing of what type of a nursing degree a nurse has, comes into play. We all sit for the NCLEX!!!!!!!!!! Gee hospitals don't seem to have a problem hiring a doctor that is a M.D vs a D.O. They are both doctors.
You mean to tell me in these hard ecomomic times places, will give a RN job to a nurse who just graduated from a BSN program vs giving it to a nurse with 10 + years of experience because she has a diploma or associates degree in nursing.