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This is a discussion on UNM - BSN Textbooks in New Mexico State Nursing Programs, part of New Mexico Nursing ... Are there any current UNM BSN students or recent graduates out there? If so, I was wondering what...by PsychiatricNP Dec 16, '08Are there any current UNM BSN students or recent graduates out there? If so, I was wondering what the attitude is in the CON regarding purchasing the required textbooks? It has been my experience during undergrad and grad school that the "required" textbooks, weren't really required afterall. I only bought one textbook during my time in grad school, and finished with near perfect GPA. I just thought that someone might be able to give me some insight on whether or not the textbooks were really necessary and if you actually used them or just relied on notes from lectures and labs. Thanks!
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- Dec 17, '08 by Medic09Some instructors, like Dr. Giddens (GREAT teacher, btw) will assign relevant material to read as preparation. By far, the book we used the most was the MedSurg book, Lewis. (Dr. Giddens and someone else at UNM were among the contributing authors of that one). I still find Lewis to be a good book to have around.
Looking at my shelf, I realize I've hardly cracked the bindings on the other books. The Spirit Catches You And Then You Fall Down is a narrative, and we were required to read the whole thing in a short time for discussion and analysis. The book was good, but the class was stupid. I don't think I read any of the other stuff for that class. My wife read that one during FP residency, and agreed it was eye-opening. The Skills and Techniques book is kind of useful. The community nursing books were sort of unique. I really did read some of them as assigned, though for the most part I got away without it. The nursing specialties books (Geriatrics, Peds, Psych, etc.) all had fairly short sections that needed reference during particular segments of the program. I don't think I ever opened the Psych or Aging texts; but Maternal-Newborn and the Child Health books I needed more. Even so, Lewis remained the book I had to read most.
The program was very writing intensive. That required having the assigned materials available somehow for the writing assignments. BTW, they are insanely pedantic about APA format on all writing; or were. Some of us pointed out we had already been through college and grad school, and never seen anything like this attitude. I tried using the APA manual carefully; but finally gave up and sacrificed points ahead of time instead of trying to please them on this. I'm quite sure that some of the profs didn't know APA well themselves, and didn't write any better than me; and I wasn't willing to go crazy over it. A colleague at work recently finished her MSN at UNM. She reports similar craziness over APA formatting with her advisor. This was a common problem. Some of the profs were far more concerned with form over good education.
Like you, I'm one of those students that always managed to do pretty well without reading the texts. Lectures and handouts covered so much of what was really required. It was hard to anticipate during Nursing school, though. Also, during clinicals some of the books were needed or useful for assigned presentations or discussions.
Something you might consider is forming a coop with a few other students and sharing texts. Or, if you live near UNM, just plan on using the library alot. During med school there, my wife practically lived at the library. Saved mucho dineros. To this day I tell her that there is a plaque with her name on it marking the spot where she always sat.
Sorry I can't give a more black and white answer. I sort of floated through the program, and still got good grades. What's more, they were trying to tweak the bugs out of the new curriculum when we left. Since you are also a second degree student, you probably won't find it to be rocket science.
- Dec 17, '08 by PsychiatricNPThanks for the thorough response, Medic09. I just wanted to make sure that if I didn't come to class with the "required" textbooks that I would earn some kind of reputation or that the earth would stop turning
I had one class in grad school where I had major issues when I didn't have the required textbook in class (even though the professor never lectured out of it) - this was also the only text I bought during my grad career!
Also, thanks for the APA heads up...I guess I better start spending some time with my APA manual.
- Dec 17, '08 by Medic09Now that you mention it, there were in-class assignment to be done in small groups that needed a text. What we did in our little group was make sure that there were a couple of texts and that there was at least one laptop. That way we could have people looking in the text, and someone Googling stuff.
I got through. Some instructors thought I was a heretic of the Nursing religion, but I still pulled good grades. I graduated.
The secret in nursing schools all across the country is, if you're a heretic keep your head low and don't mouth your blasphemies too audibly. Most instructors (not all!) prefer obedient adherents to the religion. Just drink the Kool Aid for 16 months, and smile.
UNM does, OTOH, have some really fine people among the instructors. You'll be glad to know them and spend time learning from them.
- Dec 26, '08 by JBuddI would recommend buying one of the APA software programs. I still lost an occasional point, but having a template to type into worked really well. I used the manual for technical details, like which headings to use (there are 5), but then could just have the software format whichever I chose. I chose APA PERRLA, cheap, and lets me redownload whenever I need. IT also tells you what section of the book to use when formatting things. Really helpful for the references if nothing else, you type your refs into the template, then whenever you want to cite in the text you just choose the ref you want and it is put into the paragraph for you. The only thing it doesn't do is list multiple refs together, you have to clean that up yourself.
Hey Medic, can I borrow that Spirit book?
- Dec 28, '08 by Medic09Quote from JBuddI'll try to remember to bring it to work. I'll be in Sunday, Monday, and Wednesday this week. If I forget, just slap me and remind me.Hey Medic, can I borrow that Spirit book?
- Dec 28, '08 by JBuddI can't slap you, I'm not supposed to touch, remember?:chuckle:chuckle:chuckle