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May 23, 2008 10:20 AM

So Much For Nursing Shortage!!!!!!!!!!

by mina123

Hi I am so ****** off and i guess i can't vent to nursing HR i decided to do it here. So here's what going on. I have been an LPN for seven years got my RN in 2007 but still i don't have a hospital job. I have been working with bayada and other nursing agency doing rehab, nursing home and i worked at couple of hospital in ocean county as cardiac nurse. I have all certifications ACLS, BLS, VENT, TRACH . I decided to go to south jersey hospital in atlantic county and apply there. After so many years of being a nurse i want to work either in ICU OR ER only. I got two interviews in for this hospital since a month ago but no final word yet from the hr. During my interview i saw and they said also there were 200 applications for nursing positions and yes THERE IS NO MORE NURSING SHORTAGE actually we now have overflow of nurses. 3-4 years ago they had to go to phillipines to get nurses but that's long over now. Its going to be like engineering degrees where now engineers with 4-5 years of college from universities like stanford in cali are dog walkers. I am so angry, depressesd and ****** off at the same time. I have two young kids i busted my ass to go to RN school all day worked nights took care of 3 and 5 year old kids and now i can't find a decent job which i like. I don't even know what to say to my friends who are in nursing school and looking for a brighter future. This is the state of nurses in nj don't know what's going on in other states yet.


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from buzkil
Old May 23, 2008, 10:34 AM

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I live in NJ and from all of the area hospital websites I have checked there seem to be lots of jobs for RNs. (i'm not far from where you are looking).
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from SteveRN21
Old May 23, 2008, 12:19 PM

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Thanks to many hospital closures there has been an overflow of experienced nurses job seeking, as well as a flood of new graduates entering the field. I've heard from many NJ nurses on this board that jobs have become VERY tight. I work in NYC, where thank goodness, jobs are plentiful and pay well.
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from mina123
Old May 23, 2008, 12:40 PM

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stevern21 how to u do that from jersey shore NYC is so far from where i live and if i count the travel expense and time is it even worth it????
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from mina123
Old May 23, 2008, 12:49 PM

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I have literally applied in every local hospital, most of the time when i called they even have not looked at the resume and i a very good nurse, have a lot of experience and i unlike lot of new graduates know what;s out there and not going to runaway after 1-2 years of experience. My resume is good and i have excellent cover letter. If i had the same experience and years few years ago they would have hired me right there!!!!!! SOMETHING IS GOING ON. They have cancelled all agency work, making few nurses take on toooo much responsibility and compromising patient care.
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from SteveRN21
Old May 23, 2008, 02:12 PM

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Don't forget that Corzine cut funding to hospitals. Do you think that the huge influx of undocumented immigrants and uninsured that seek the same care (unreimbursed)are going to stay home?

This is an example of stop-gap measures to keep healthcare systems afloat.
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from llg
Old May 23, 2008, 02:48 PM

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Another factor is the economic situation. When the general economy is bad, nurses already on staff want to pick up extra shifts -- or at least not cut back on the shifts they are working. Those per diem employees WANT lots of hours and budgeted staff members are looking for a little overtime. That fills all the "holes in the schedule" and take the pressure off management to hire a bunch of new people who will be costly to orient.

When the economy improves, those same staff members will cut back on the hours they work ... leaving holes in the schedule that need to be filled ... and stimulating hospitals to start hiring a little more.
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from elkpark
Old May 23, 2008, 05:38 PM

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A lot of us have been saying for a long time that there is no nursing shortage ...

However, it is true that there is a signficant maldistribution of nurses across the US; some areas/markets are completely saturated, but there are areas of the country that do have shortages. People in nursing schools are apparently being led to believe that, as soon as they graduate, they'll have their choice of jobs, can choose their preferred shift and specialty, and can find a job right in their current location -- but people going into lots of other fields expect that they'll have to move to where the jobs are to start their careers when they finish school, and that may be becoming the case in nursing, too.

Best wishes for your job-hunting!
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from SteveRN21
Old May 24, 2008, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mina123 View Post
stevern21 how to u do that from jersey shore NYC is so far from where i live and if i count the travel expense and time is it even worth it????

I make about $8-10 more an hour in NYC than in NJ, and I get great union benefits including $10,000/yr toward my grad school tuition. The tuition reimbursement was the selling point for me.

I used to spend around $500/month simply commuting, with gas, tolls, parking, etc. (plus wear/tear on the car) Now I take NJTransit. $20 bucks, (tax-free, thanks to employer-sponsored pretax transit plan) and I can sleep going in, and coming out....
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from llg
Old May 24, 2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by elkpark View Post
A lot of us have been saying for a long time that there is no nursing shortage ...

However, it is true that there is a signficant maldistribution of nurses across the US; some areas/markets are completely saturated, but there are areas of the country that do have shortages. People in nursing schools are apparently being led to believe that, as soon as they graduate, they'll have their choice of jobs, can choose their preferred shift and specialty, and can find a job right in their current location -- but people going into lots of other fields expect that they'll have to move to where the jobs are to start their careers when they finish school, and that may be becoming the case in nursing, too.

Best wishes for your job-hunting!
Exactly! Throughout history, people have been willing to migrate in order to provide themselves with better job opportunities. That's how the United States (and many other countries) were populated. However, in recent years, it seems that fewer people are willing to do that and "go where the jobs are."

As an extreme example, I once had a colleague complain about not having an MSN program near her home -- when there were 4 highly respected programs within an hour's drive, one of which held classes at the hospital where she worked! I reminded her that I had been forced to move half-way across the country to attend one of the 2 existing programs in my field. She gave me a look as if she just "didn't get it." If the program she wanted wasn't in her back yard, she wasn't going to make any effort to go.

There are plenty of nursing jobs out there. They might just not be in your back yard ... and/or they may not be exactly the ones you would prefer.

My advice for new grads it this. If you happen to live in an area that has an over-supply of new grads, you may have to move to get the type of job you want. The good news is that you probably won't have to "stay away" forever. After you get a year or two of experience, you should be able to find something reasonable in your preferred area of the country.

For people totally averse to moving (even temporarily), then they will have to either take jobs that no one else wants ... or find a job in another field for a while until the nursing jobs open up again. That may require you to take a refresher course at some point in the future unless you can find a way to keep your nursing skills fresh.

Life isn't always fair ... and I am sorry that you are in this situation. But you have to face reality and make a tough choice. There may be no attractive option for a local nursing job that really appeals to you. You may have to start seriously considering the unattractive options. (e.g. moving to where the jobs are)
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